(December 29, 2022 at 12:32 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(December 29, 2022 at 11:05 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Not sure how that doesn't mean 'didn't have a beginning'.
Wikipedia -- Hartle–Hawking state
I think Mister Agenda's point is that there is a valid instance of the excluded middle here, and Hawking-Hartle doesn't rebut that conclusion.
It's the same as saying that an atheist lacks a belief in a god, yet in some way, unspecified, an ignostic doesn't fall into that category.
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