(January 24, 2023 at 1:05 am)Paleophyte Wrote:(January 23, 2023 at 7:08 am)GrandizerII Wrote: P-zombies only need to be considered conceivable (and, subsequently, metaphysically possible), not physically possible, for the thought experiment to work.
And if things had been left as a thought experiment I'd be fine with that. Dmitry wants to take it a whole lot further though by trying to incorporate it into apologetics.
Leaving that aside, I have to wonder if philosophical zombies are even conceivable. The notion is to have something that is indistinguishable from a human by every measure despite lacking sentience or qualia. While we're at it, let's have philosophical fire, which is indistinguishable from actual fire despite lacking heat or light. Seems like a contradiction to me.
Is Dmitry an apologist? They said in another thread somewhere that they're not Christian, so I don't know what they are. That doesn't matter, anyway.
As for your philosophical fire example, I think the problem with that is if it lacks heat or light, then already you have an observable difference there between such a fire and the actual fire that we're acquainted with.