So let me try to summarize this discussion:
Few people claim that consciousness could not evolve or that there is no explanation for it to evolve and therefore God (which would be an argument from the ignorance fallacy)
But, consciousness is a product of intelligence, the more some animal has intelligence the more conscious it is, and we all know that intelligence can evolve. So those few members introduced the concept of p zombie into the discussion as some sort of evidence that humans can exist without consciousness. But p zombies don't exist so other members are asking "why bother with that?" Indeed, if someone was a zombie he would be a mentally disabled person who could not function. Not just that, but our ancestors were harsh toward mentally disabled people. For example, people who were considered village idiots did not exist until agrarian societies where a surplus of food could be spared to feed them.
Few people claim that consciousness could not evolve or that there is no explanation for it to evolve and therefore God (which would be an argument from the ignorance fallacy)
But, consciousness is a product of intelligence, the more some animal has intelligence the more conscious it is, and we all know that intelligence can evolve. So those few members introduced the concept of p zombie into the discussion as some sort of evidence that humans can exist without consciousness. But p zombies don't exist so other members are asking "why bother with that?" Indeed, if someone was a zombie he would be a mentally disabled person who could not function. Not just that, but our ancestors were harsh toward mentally disabled people. For example, people who were considered village idiots did not exist until agrarian societies where a surplus of food could be spared to feed them.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
