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How Great Thou Aren't
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RE: How Great Thou Aren't
December 10, 2011 at 6:11 am
(December 10, 2011 at 12:52 am)gralbrit79 Wrote: I do believe God does intervene, but I do not agree with the person who says we prayed for God to help me sell my house and it sold or find my keys and they did. The question would be where does he draw the line? If he innerves and fixes everything and protects everyone there would be no choice what so ever. I believe God created the world and set it in motion and in that he gave people the freedom to choose. The world has a natural order to the way things work. God created things that create things. Plants, animals people all reproduce themselves. There is war, famine, disease. Some of these come about because of hate and injustice, some from the natural order. God did not create the world and put it on a string to dictate everything that would happen. People are born and they die, it is part of life (I do not mean for that to come across as if it does not matter, because it does matter). So again at what point does he intervene and where does he stop? With natural disasters? With disease? With poor choices? Where does he step in? If he steps in at every opportunity at what point do we (meaning everyone and everything) simply become puppets on a string? God could have made everything perfect, removed all the evil from the world but love would not have existed. It would have been nonexistent. Love must be a choice, if we are simply made to love someone it is not truly love. I do not think he is indifferent to the suffering, but I believe as I said earlier he expects his people to be there for the hurting. To show compassion and love not just to those who are hungry but to those who are dying. There is a lot of evil and indifference done in the name of gods, including Christianity, but I do not believe that is representative of every follower of Jesus. That is not what Jesus taught his followers.

I reiterate: It's down to us to help these people then? No argument from me there. So while we are expending human energy to try and correct these issues, what is it exactly that God is doing?
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How Great Thou Aren't - by Cinjin - December 6, 2011 at 12:40 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Erinome - December 6, 2011 at 1:31 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Cinjin - December 6, 2011 at 3:10 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by tackattack - December 6, 2011 at 6:43 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Cinjin - December 6, 2011 at 9:50 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Heather - December 6, 2011 at 10:58 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Cinjin - December 6, 2011 at 12:44 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Minimalist - December 6, 2011 at 12:15 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by ElDinero - December 6, 2011 at 4:32 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Shell B - December 6, 2011 at 7:49 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Shell B - December 6, 2011 at 9:53 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Cinjin - December 6, 2011 at 10:08 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Minimalist - December 6, 2011 at 12:57 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Heather - December 6, 2011 at 3:02 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Mister Agenda - December 6, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by tackattack - December 7, 2011 at 1:36 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Cinjin - December 7, 2011 at 10:12 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by tackattack - December 8, 2011 at 2:25 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Cinjin - December 8, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Heather - December 7, 2011 at 10:47 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by ElDinero - December 8, 2011 at 3:24 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by tackattack - December 8, 2011 at 3:56 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Heather - December 8, 2011 at 9:32 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by ElDinero - December 8, 2011 at 8:39 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Minimalist - December 8, 2011 at 4:20 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by tackattack - December 9, 2011 at 5:17 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Cinjin - December 9, 2011 at 12:20 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by gralbrit79 - December 9, 2011 at 6:31 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Cinjin - December 9, 2011 at 6:41 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by ElDinero - December 9, 2011 at 10:13 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by ElDinero - December 9, 2011 at 2:01 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Minimalist - December 9, 2011 at 2:57 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Minimalist - December 9, 2011 at 7:16 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Shell B - December 9, 2011 at 10:22 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Minimalist - December 9, 2011 at 10:42 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Shell B - December 9, 2011 at 10:45 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Kayenneh - December 9, 2011 at 11:02 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Minimalist - December 9, 2011 at 11:10 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by gralbrit79 - December 10, 2011 at 12:52 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Cinjin - December 10, 2011 at 1:41 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by tackattack - December 14, 2011 at 6:56 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by ElDinero - December 14, 2011 at 1:42 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by ElDinero - December 10, 2011 at 6:11 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Minimalist - December 10, 2011 at 1:03 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by gralbrit79 - December 10, 2011 at 11:45 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by houseofcantor - December 14, 2011 at 8:25 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by tackattack - December 14, 2011 at 9:41 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by houseofcantor - December 14, 2011 at 12:29 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Blackbox - December 14, 2011 at 11:29 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Minimalist - December 14, 2011 at 12:47 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Godschild - December 15, 2011 at 5:48 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Shell B - December 15, 2011 at 6:05 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Godschild - December 15, 2011 at 9:35 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by houseofcantor - December 16, 2011 at 4:29 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by ElDinero - December 15, 2011 at 7:31 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by houseofcantor - December 15, 2011 at 9:23 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Minimalist - December 15, 2011 at 5:54 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by frankiej - December 15, 2011 at 5:57 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Shell B - December 16, 2011 at 4:33 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by houseofcantor - December 16, 2011 at 6:11 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by ElDinero - December 16, 2011 at 9:53 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by houseofcantor - December 16, 2011 at 11:35 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Godschild - December 16, 2011 at 6:01 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Shell B - December 16, 2011 at 6:24 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Jackalope - December 16, 2011 at 10:14 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Godschild - December 17, 2011 at 1:05 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Jackalope - December 17, 2011 at 2:16 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Darwinning - December 17, 2011 at 12:15 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Cinjin - December 18, 2011 at 5:09 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Minimalist - December 16, 2011 at 1:50 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by houseofcantor - December 16, 2011 at 2:24 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by The Grand Nudger - December 16, 2011 at 10:24 pm
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Jackalope - December 17, 2011 at 12:58 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Godschild - December 17, 2011 at 7:23 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by Shell B - December 17, 2011 at 2:12 am
RE: How Great Thou Aren't - by The Grand Nudger - December 17, 2011 at 11:39 am

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