OK let's get back to discussion, this was my reply to moon
(May 2, 2023 at 5:53 pm)The End of Atheism Wrote:(May 2, 2023 at 5:46 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Analogies are not evidence. And flawed analogies are worse.
What does not being a personal agent have to do with what evolution is, or is not, capable of? That sounds like you are making the claim that a personal agent is necessary to explain the variety of life, got any evidence for that claim?
You do understand, that claims are not evidence, right?
And, lets say even if you were able to disprove that evolution is not capable for accounting for the existence of humans, that alone does not offer a shred of evidence that a god exists.
More examples of the type you posted, are not evidence. We asked for evidence.
OK the key problem here is evolution. You already speak of evolution as if it were an agent, evolution is just how things happened and changed over time, let's call it a process. The same way the ball walking into the net is a process : it's what's happening but it explains nothing. Someone like a football player kicked the ball purposefully into the net; likewise a master agent "kicked" evolution into human beings and varities of life forms etc. I know this is a fishy way to frame the argument but hopefully you get the idea