(July 30, 2023 at 6:57 pm)Peebothuhlu Wrote: Given the opening parameters of your thought experiment, the answer is simply "Yes'.
IF a Creator being creates something, thence that being is 'making' everything involved in said thing.
Of course, where things turn ploin shaped is when the ascribes of a Creator then go on to posit a whole raft of things that simply do not seem to line up with the said premise.
The creator being created everything. Though (Somehow) it both [redermined everything to unfold into its present state and YET also allows for 'Free will', which means that some aspects of its creation are no longer following dai predetermination... Somehow.
Then there's the assertion that said Creator being MUST be 'All loving'... while very easily defined happenings of "Not loving' and 'Un loving' demonstrably happens.
Hope that helps.
That's exactly it. I think what my dilemma was, that within this question were a whole slew of unstated facts about this Creator being, descriptions of its nature and the rest of the rules of reality, that were causing things to not fit right for me.
Because just the bare question: Can a Creator being do whatever it likes? Is answered by the other poster below who brings up the word " allowed" I used. Simply, just this question and nothing else, the answer is yes.
So you certainly helped me realize what exactly the other layers to it are and what felt off about this defense I hear so often, mostly from Christians. Because they're not JUST asking Can a Creator being do whatever it likes?" They're also describing the contradictory attributes of that being AND defining our relationship with it as supposed free to make choices as well as deserving love in a way we understand it.
