@Rev. Rye That is super interesting! So we got two different sources related to both women talking about methods of child restraint and its origins. It might also be a regional thing. There is something very different about the Mormons who came from or are immersed in the "Mormon Corridor" (Morridor is what the exmos call it).
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The area has a very dense presence of Mormons to the point where they are heavily steeped in the government and even tend to run things and operate the law based on Mormon doctrine.
But anyway, I grew up all along the east coast and have even talked to exmos from the west coast and there is some agreement that the Morridor Mormons are very bizarre sometimes the directions they take doctrine and such. So, the child restraint and starvation thing could be a regionally accepted idea as well as a response of some mothers to the stress and pressure of producing big families.
Like, not too long ago, a report came out about Utah being the most indebted state in the nation: https://www.abc4.com/news/local-news/uta...udy-finds/
Since Mormons have a flavour of prosperity gospel AND their own version of Quiverfull movement, I can see how the extreme pressure to present a certain face of righteousness with a big family and big displays of money could lead to minor psychotic breaks in women who are not given very many choices or respected autonomy. Especially if there is debt involved on top of it; how much of their lives must feel like a lie? I was watching the H3H3 highlights about this and Ethan's like, "It feels like she doesn't even like kids." She probably doesn't. She might have wanted very different things for her life.
Again, no excuses, but I am glad this is gaining so much national attention so that maybe bit by bit the government can come into the Morridor and start upturning that soured earth.
@Bucky Ball The Book of Abraham is actually old news. But its a pet topic of mine and I always appreciate it being brought up when talking about Mormon lies.
The area has a very dense presence of Mormons to the point where they are heavily steeped in the government and even tend to run things and operate the law based on Mormon doctrine.
But anyway, I grew up all along the east coast and have even talked to exmos from the west coast and there is some agreement that the Morridor Mormons are very bizarre sometimes the directions they take doctrine and such. So, the child restraint and starvation thing could be a regionally accepted idea as well as a response of some mothers to the stress and pressure of producing big families.
Like, not too long ago, a report came out about Utah being the most indebted state in the nation: https://www.abc4.com/news/local-news/uta...udy-finds/
Since Mormons have a flavour of prosperity gospel AND their own version of Quiverfull movement, I can see how the extreme pressure to present a certain face of righteousness with a big family and big displays of money could lead to minor psychotic breaks in women who are not given very many choices or respected autonomy. Especially if there is debt involved on top of it; how much of their lives must feel like a lie? I was watching the H3H3 highlights about this and Ethan's like, "It feels like she doesn't even like kids." She probably doesn't. She might have wanted very different things for her life.
Again, no excuses, but I am glad this is gaining so much national attention so that maybe bit by bit the government can come into the Morridor and start upturning that soured earth.
@Bucky Ball The Book of Abraham is actually old news. But its a pet topic of mine and I always appreciate it being brought up when talking about Mormon lies.
