(October 8, 2023 at 11:53 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The implication is that, if god got something -wrong- then it must not come from god. You're not disproving anything with that, you're accepting their framing... and it's nutball framing.
A forger writes a "prophecy" that claims to have been written by one Daniel three or four centuries before Antiochus IV Epiphanes and is eerily accurate about the details of Levantine history, including the desecration of the temple...all the way up to a certain point near the of his reign when it goes wildly astray. The obvious take is that it was really written during that king's reign before the battle he was supposed to win but didn't. And the promised direct rule of God never came. Did anyone ever discard the thing as a false prophecy? No! They extended it, and said the Romans would desecrate the temple, and so they did, and still the promised direct rule of God never came. On and on, until our own time, and Evangelicals insist the temple will be rebuilt so it can be desecrated by the antichrist, who by turns was Jimmy Carter, then it was Bill Clinton, then Barack Obama, and now is Joe Biden. It's nutball framing in the sense that nothing, NOTHING can ever make it go away, because it's the word of God and God is never wrong.
