RE: A thing about religious (and other) people and the illusion of free will
November 12, 2023 at 6:29 pm
(November 12, 2023 at 5:57 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: ”An enormous portion of cognitive activity is non-conscious, figuratively speaking, it could be 99 percent; we probably will never know precisely how much is outside awareness.” (Dr. Emmanuel Donchin, director of the Laboratory for Cognitive Psychophysiology at the University of Illinois).
That precludes "free will". In general the percentage generally is said to be about 95 %.
It all depends on the definition which still comes from Medieval Theology. There, it means that one can hold in consciousness AT THE TIME the decision is made,
ALL the elements of a choice, (defined in Moral Theology to establish what a "sin" is). That has been proven by neuroscience to be false.
No one can "believe" in god who sincerely thinks the concept is total rubbish, that the concept is incoherent, AND Christianity at least agrees :
"For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God, it is not from works, so that no-one may boast. For we are his handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, so that in them we might walk. (Eph 2:8-10)
I thought so about free will.
It is not like determinism or even probability for that matter. I don't think free will is a think as I was trying to explain like neuroscience says it is not.
But yeah, religion does have a lot of BS. I do not think Jesus Christ even existed at all, did he not?
But yeah, if I understand what "precludes", as in "precludes free will" means, and I bet I do, I am sure what I was previously talking about or was trying to say before about how the mind works prevents free will from being a thing. In fact, one of the reasons, and I mean one out of perhaps many, as to why people believe in free will is that they want to believe they really are free, and they want to think that they can freely choose even when they actually don't. What other reasons could there be for people believing in free will?
