RE: A thing about religious (and other) people and the illusion of free will
November 19, 2023 at 12:57 pm
(November 19, 2023 at 12:43 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We have another thread you may enjoy that swirls around the question of whether everyone is religious. I think it would be difficult to explain how god beliefs struggled along for 40-48k of it's 50k or so years (at least) without supreme deities..if we were fatalistically or deterministically predisposed towards believing in them. The short version of a long story from my opinions in that thread is that I don't think that we're predisposed to believe in supreme beings or even gods. I think we're predisposed to religious thinking. God's are an overlay...though even here your point may apply, when we imagine gods we imagine them as meaningfully human-alike because of course we do.
Everything worth a shit is like us, somehow, amiright? We have...difficulties.....believing otherwise.
I would like to read it. Have a link?
But yeah, if we are predisposed for religious thinking instead, that is close enough to what I was trying to say. Either way, I think we are deterministically lead by the subconscious mind to think religiously, whether it be actually god, or just religious thinking itself.
That said, gods are mostly, if not, entirely made up to be in the image of humans, rather than anything like what a supreme deity may be, whatever that may be. Still, mentally and physically, supreme deities like God are based on, or even look like humans. In fact, going by past accounts of how people describe God, or other gods, I do think God and other supreme deities though up by humans think so much like humans, to the point that they are not perfect. At all. It is probably because A. Humans can't think beyond the way they do, or B. Gods are thought up in a way that humans can actually relate to, or C. some other reason. Either way, I do believe that how humans thought up supreme deities is extremely flawed.
Whatever God or other supreme deities are, if they did exist, technically, I would say they are flawed beings because they were conceived and made up by flawed entities that are humans.