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[split] Are Questions About God Important?
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
(November 30, 2023 at 11:06 am)FrustratedFool Wrote:
(November 30, 2023 at 10:37 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Say someone says they think cats are important.  That's them telling you they think that cats exist, too.  Granted, they may be wrong.  Cativism may be false, but they're a cativist all the same.  No?

If someone thinks cats are important they may or may not believe in cats as something that is instantiated into external reality.  Like if someone says dragons are important.  Without further inquiry I wouldn't presume they hold any other position on that than what is explicitly stated.
Which is that there is such a thing as dragons and they are important.......?  Yes.  I can see all manner of ways that this statement is objectively true, too, what's the problem?

Quote:This gets more complicated when discussing something more complex like 'objective importance' or 'objective beauty' etc.

In short, no idea what you;re on about.
Sure, objectivity is very complex.  As complex as the facts of a matter - in fact.  In some versions of error theory objectivity is so difficult that while it is or may be possible, it's not humanly attainable. In comparison, subjectivity is dead simple, relativity requires a little more work, and noncognitivism (feeling) is automatic.

That's why people so often attempt to back up their opinions with facts.  "This is my opinion because...."  It's the different types of "because" I'm talking about, the different types of "because" that the thread is about.  A person who ascribes importance to the objective is an objectivist, because their because is a set of alleged facts of the matter that they have explicitly declared as important.

Rightly or wrongly.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!



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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - November 30, 2023 at 8:31 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - November 30, 2023 at 10:27 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 1, 2023 at 7:16 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Silver - November 28, 2023 at 11:51 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 29, 2023 at 9:10 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 29, 2023 at 9:15 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 29, 2023 at 9:35 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 29, 2023 at 8:28 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 29, 2023 at 9:29 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 29, 2023 at 10:17 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Bucky Ball - November 29, 2023 at 11:00 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 5:53 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Bucky Ball - November 30, 2023 at 12:13 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 12:38 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 8:31 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Deesse23 - December 1, 2023 at 3:12 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 8:59 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 9:01 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by The Grand Nudger - November 30, 2023 at 11:15 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - November 30, 2023 at 11:50 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 11:53 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 11:58 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 1:52 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Silver - November 30, 2023 at 1:55 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 5, 2023 at 4:03 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 3:24 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by brewer - November 30, 2023 at 7:35 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by brewer - November 30, 2023 at 11:36 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 12:14 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 1, 2023 at 8:09 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 1, 2023 at 10:26 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Silver - December 1, 2023 at 10:44 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 11:02 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 11:06 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 2:37 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 2:52 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 3:55 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 1, 2023 at 5:39 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 5:40 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 1, 2023 at 5:43 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 5:57 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 1, 2023 at 6:30 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 1, 2023 at 6:40 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 6:48 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Silver - December 1, 2023 at 1:43 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 6:43 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 1, 2023 at 7:03 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 7:13 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 1, 2023 at 7:26 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 7:49 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 2, 2023 at 12:09 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 2, 2023 at 2:36 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 3, 2023 at 5:05 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 7:16 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 7:42 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 1, 2023 at 9:31 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 2, 2023 at 8:40 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 2, 2023 at 12:31 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 3, 2023 at 5:07 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 3, 2023 at 6:30 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 3, 2023 at 7:06 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Silver - December 2, 2023 at 12:42 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 2, 2023 at 12:45 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by brewer - December 3, 2023 at 5:36 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Silver - December 4, 2023 at 12:07 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 2, 2023 at 7:43 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 3, 2023 at 7:10 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 4, 2023 at 6:24 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - December 2, 2023 at 3:45 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - December 3, 2023 at 1:36 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 4, 2023 at 7:16 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 4, 2023 at 8:47 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 4, 2023 at 9:05 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 4, 2023 at 11:00 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 4, 2023 at 9:12 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 4, 2023 at 9:41 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 4, 2023 at 11:39 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 4, 2023 at 12:24 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 4, 2023 at 12:59 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 4, 2023 at 8:36 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 4, 2023 at 8:42 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 1:52 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 4, 2023 at 8:51 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by brewer - December 4, 2023 at 10:25 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 4, 2023 at 10:57 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 7:13 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 10:59 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 5:45 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 5:44 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 6:58 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 6, 2023 at 6:59 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Deesse23 - December 6, 2023 at 8:23 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 6, 2023 at 9:40 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 6, 2023 at 10:22 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 6, 2023 at 10:45 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 6, 2023 at 11:16 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 6, 2023 at 11:37 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Deesse23 - December 7, 2023 at 3:34 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Deesse23 - December 7, 2023 at 7:17 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 7:02 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 7:53 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 8:14 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 6, 2023 at 10:27 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 7:26 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 8:07 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 5, 2023 at 8:56 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 5, 2023 at 9:25 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 5, 2023 at 8:52 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 9:39 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 9:55 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by brewer - December 5, 2023 at 2:05 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 11:01 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 11:50 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - December 5, 2023 at 5:24 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 5:46 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 5, 2023 at 9:28 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 4:32 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 6, 2023 at 8:40 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 6, 2023 at 10:31 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 6, 2023 at 10:51 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 6, 2023 at 9:24 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 8:44 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 8:47 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 7, 2023 at 8:48 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 7, 2023 at 8:06 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 7, 2023 at 8:16 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 8:54 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 9:02 am
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 9:27 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 9:33 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 7, 2023 at 8:57 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 9:05 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 9:06 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 11:07 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 11:57 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 3:18 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 7, 2023 at 3:27 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 3:56 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Silver - December 9, 2023 at 12:36 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - December 7, 2023 at 12:28 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 7, 2023 at 2:59 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 7, 2023 at 5:43 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - December 7, 2023 at 8:19 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 7, 2023 at 8:28 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - December 7, 2023 at 8:30 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 7, 2023 at 9:49 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 8, 2023 at 12:11 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 8, 2023 at 1:11 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 8, 2023 at 10:33 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 8, 2023 at 10:40 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - December 9, 2023 at 9:44 pm
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