[split] Are Questions About God Important?

[The Grand Nudger]

Oookay, and which of the at least five basic ideas about importance (or moral importance) so far discussed in thread, all open to believers and non believers alike.. are in the childish set, so we can discard them?

The one that says that we should x because love?  The one that says we should x because someone said so?  The one that says we should x because lots of people say so, the one that says we should x because of facts about x - or the one that says the whole thing is an error of some kind or another?

(personally, I'd discard the first three, not because there's nothing there, just because it's never what I'm trying to talk about when I use the terms).

Let’s assume when we say god - we mean a perfect being.

It’s not a great argument to redraw god as a devil type being and attack that.  

I’ll assume - if you’re describing something that sounds more like a devil, you’re really talking about a devil and calling it god

Not exactly what I was asking, but sure, I'll bite.  

First, you must appreciate that whatever it is you're objecting to with the devil stuff really only means what it does to you.  I'm not turning a god to anything, not redrawing anything.  I don't believe in any of this stuff the way that you do.  I'm simply commenting on the idea that things are worthwhile because they come from gods wherever..instead of coming from gods wherever because they are worthwhile.  

More succinctly, that coming out of gods wherever is the worthwhile-making property in this understanding.  If that were so, then it would follow inexorably that those "devil things" would be the set of the worthwhile, if that's what happened to be coming out of gods wherever.

I'm not sure what the problem could be. If god was the perfect being, and coming out of his wherever was the worthwhile making property, all of those things would be not just worthwhile but perfect...too.