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[split] Are Questions About God Important?
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
(December 3, 2023 at 4:34 pm)Confused-by-christianity Wrote: Yes - it was a trap question.
I saw the dilema and thought - why not, as a brainteaser :-)  
It was a good to work out the question, but i couldn't seem to get the question to make sense without fundamentally changing god.  I had to reimagine god as something else to make the question fit - but then we aren't talking about god any more ??!?!?!  i got into that circle.

A pointless loop, as the question was about goodness, not godness.  God is whatever a god is and whatever is flowing out of a gods wherever is whatever -that- is.

It doesn't matter to goodness whether the thing we were apprehending would be a god anymore instead of a devil..which is, I guess(?), the "bad" version of a god.  Implying that you have a standard that -you- hold gods too.

That you both now apprehend and discuss the question as some sort of trap rather than a softball pitched at either of you - suggests to me, that neither of you feels confidently about the proposition that what is good is whatever flows out of gods wherever...and why should you?  

Neither of you think that, and neither do I. We all three think that, if things can be good, and if good stuff came out of gods wherever, it's really good stuff, not just whatever came out of someone's wherever. Caveman specifically invoked a purportedly objective standard to support an explicitly subjective understanding. Delicious. What will you do?

Keep in mind, ofc, that the who enterprise really is doomed - as even if you do wish to say that good is whatever happens to be shining out of gods wherever that's still just one of the widely accepted categories of meaning and import available to anyone regardless of any belief in or about personal and intervening deities. The only thing either of you is deciding is just how hard and how often to kick yourselves and each other in the dick. You both know and understand that there is meaning aside from your god meanings - even if you disagree with those other meanings as the right™ meanings. Hell, all either of you want to tell us about is how you disagree with those things, the trouble is that you sound silly when you try.
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - November 30, 2023 at 8:31 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - November 30, 2023 at 10:27 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 1, 2023 at 7:16 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Silver - November 28, 2023 at 11:51 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 29, 2023 at 9:10 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 29, 2023 at 9:15 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 29, 2023 at 9:35 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 29, 2023 at 8:28 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 29, 2023 at 9:29 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 29, 2023 at 10:17 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Bucky Ball - November 29, 2023 at 11:00 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 5:53 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Bucky Ball - November 30, 2023 at 12:13 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 12:38 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 8:31 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Deesse23 - December 1, 2023 at 3:12 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 8:59 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 9:01 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - November 30, 2023 at 11:50 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 11:53 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 11:58 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 1:52 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Silver - November 30, 2023 at 1:55 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 5, 2023 at 4:03 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - November 30, 2023 at 3:24 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by brewer - November 30, 2023 at 7:35 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by brewer - November 30, 2023 at 11:36 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 12:14 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 1, 2023 at 8:09 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 1, 2023 at 10:26 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Silver - December 1, 2023 at 10:44 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 11:02 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 11:06 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 2:37 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 2:52 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 3:55 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 1, 2023 at 5:39 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 5:40 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 1, 2023 at 5:43 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 5:57 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 1, 2023 at 6:30 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 1, 2023 at 6:40 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 6:48 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Silver - December 1, 2023 at 1:43 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 6:43 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 1, 2023 at 7:03 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 7:13 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 1, 2023 at 7:26 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 7:49 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 2, 2023 at 12:09 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 2, 2023 at 2:36 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 3, 2023 at 5:05 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 7:16 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 1, 2023 at 7:42 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 1, 2023 at 9:31 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 2, 2023 at 8:40 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 2, 2023 at 12:31 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 3, 2023 at 5:07 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 3, 2023 at 6:30 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 3, 2023 at 7:06 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Silver - December 2, 2023 at 12:42 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 2, 2023 at 12:45 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by brewer - December 3, 2023 at 5:36 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Silver - December 4, 2023 at 12:07 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 2, 2023 at 7:43 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 3, 2023 at 7:10 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 4, 2023 at 6:24 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - December 2, 2023 at 3:45 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - December 3, 2023 at 1:36 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by The Grand Nudger - December 3, 2023 at 5:07 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 4, 2023 at 7:16 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 4, 2023 at 8:47 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 4, 2023 at 9:05 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 4, 2023 at 11:00 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 4, 2023 at 9:12 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 4, 2023 at 9:41 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 4, 2023 at 11:39 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 4, 2023 at 12:24 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 4, 2023 at 12:59 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 4, 2023 at 8:36 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 4, 2023 at 8:42 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 1:52 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 4, 2023 at 8:51 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by brewer - December 4, 2023 at 10:25 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 4, 2023 at 10:57 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 7:13 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 10:59 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 5:45 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 5:44 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 6:58 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 6, 2023 at 6:59 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Deesse23 - December 6, 2023 at 8:23 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 6, 2023 at 9:40 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 6, 2023 at 10:22 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 6, 2023 at 10:45 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 6, 2023 at 11:16 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 6, 2023 at 11:37 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Deesse23 - December 7, 2023 at 3:34 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Deesse23 - December 7, 2023 at 7:17 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 7:02 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 7:53 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 8:14 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 6, 2023 at 10:27 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 7:26 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 8:07 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 5, 2023 at 8:56 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 5, 2023 at 9:25 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 5, 2023 at 8:52 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 9:39 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 9:55 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by brewer - December 5, 2023 at 2:05 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 5, 2023 at 11:01 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 11:50 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - December 5, 2023 at 5:24 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 5:46 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 5, 2023 at 9:28 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 5, 2023 at 4:32 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 6, 2023 at 8:40 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 6, 2023 at 10:31 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 6, 2023 at 10:51 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 6, 2023 at 9:24 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 8:44 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 8:47 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 7, 2023 at 8:48 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 7, 2023 at 8:06 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 7, 2023 at 8:16 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 8:54 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 9:02 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 9:17 am
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 9:27 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 9:33 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Belacqua - December 7, 2023 at 8:57 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 9:05 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 9:06 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 11:07 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 11:57 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 3:18 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 7, 2023 at 3:27 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by h4ym4n - December 7, 2023 at 3:56 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Silver - December 9, 2023 at 12:36 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - December 7, 2023 at 12:28 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 7, 2023 at 2:59 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 7, 2023 at 5:43 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - December 7, 2023 at 8:19 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 7, 2023 at 8:28 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - December 7, 2023 at 8:30 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 7, 2023 at 9:49 pm
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 8, 2023 at 12:11 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 8, 2023 at 1:11 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Ahriman - December 8, 2023 at 10:33 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by no one - December 8, 2023 at 10:40 am
RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important? - by Angrboda - December 9, 2023 at 9:44 pm
RE: Hello to all - by Istvan - November 28, 2023 at 9:02 am
RE: Hello to all - by Confused-by-christianity - November 28, 2023 at 9:14 am
RE: Hello to all - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 28, 2023 at 3:47 pm
RE: Hello to all - by zebo-the-fat - November 28, 2023 at 4:43 pm
RE: Hello to all - by SimpleCaveman - November 29, 2023 at 4:25 pm
RE: Hello to all - by Fake Messiah - November 29, 2023 at 4:44 pm
RE: Hello to all - by SimpleCaveman - November 29, 2023 at 5:02 pm
RE: Hello to all - by Fake Messiah - November 29, 2023 at 5:07 pm
RE: Hello to all - by SimpleCaveman - December 2, 2023 at 2:26 pm
RE: Hello to all - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 29, 2023 at 7:51 pm
RE: Hello to all - by brewer - November 29, 2023 at 10:45 pm
RE: Hello to all - by Confused-by-christianity - November 30, 2023 at 6:09 pm
RE: Hello to all - by Anomalocaris - November 28, 2023 at 4:42 pm
RE: Hello to all - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 29, 2023 at 1:59 am
RE: Hello to all - by Istvan - November 28, 2023 at 9:20 am
RE: Hello to all - by Confused-by-christianity - November 28, 2023 at 9:22 am
RE: Hello to all - by Astreja - November 28, 2023 at 7:23 pm
RE: Hello to all - by Confused-by-christianity - November 30, 2023 at 6:25 pm
RE: Hello to all - by Astreja - November 30, 2023 at 8:42 pm
RE: Hello to all - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2023 at 10:10 am
RE: Hello to all - by Mister Agenda - November 28, 2023 at 10:18 am
RE: Hello to all - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2023 at 10:21 am
RE: Hello to all - by Confused-by-christianity - November 28, 2023 at 10:34 am

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