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A 21st Century Ontological Argument: does it work.
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RE: A 21st Century Ontological Argument: does it work.
(January 8, 2024 at 11:20 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(January 8, 2024 at 10:31 pm)JJoseph Wrote: How so? Conceivability implies something exists in some possible world. In other words, it is possible.

A square circle is not possible. It exists in no possible world. It is not conceivable either.

Conceivability and possibility are basically synonymous terms imo. If it is conceivable, it is possible.

No, it doesn't.  If it does, then I can conceive of a world without God.  Since I can conceive it, it's possible.  If it's possible, there is one possible world without God.  Since God by definition, if he exists, exists in all possible worlds, then God doesn't exist by implication.  Thanks for playing.

Well played. But incorrect. Why? Because if I'm right, then your second statement is incorrect. You may think you can, but you actually cannot. In other words, someone who doesn't know that Pythagoras' Theorem is a necessary Truth may think he can conceive of a right angled triangle where a2+b2!=c2 where c is the hypotenuse etc, but he actually cannot. He only thinks he can. Thus, likewise, you may think you can conceive of a self-creating world, or a self-existing contingent world, without a Necessarily Existent Creator, but in fact, since His existence is at least possible, therefore it is necessary; in other words, there is no possible contingent world in which the Necessarily Existent Being does not exist.

Thanks for playing.
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RE: A 21st Century Ontological Argument: does it work. - by JJoseph - January 9, 2024 at 1:40 am

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