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The justice and mercy of God
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RE: The justice and mercy of God


[/quote='GC']Prove that Hitler and his soldiers were christians , you made the statement now give us your facts.[/quote]

Aegrus Wrote:Very well.

http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=98197509

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/..._honor.php

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/pr...n-1483871/

Thanks for the reads, however just because Hitler was politically attached to the Catholic Church does not make him a christian. The hierarchy of the Catholic Church is more political than religious, so I question their devotion to Christ and his teachings. The Catholic Church does not resemble the christian church of the NT. Anyone can claim to be christian just as I could claim to be a biologist. Hold me up to the standards a biologist needs to meet and you would see that I was lying. Hold Hitler up to the standards of Christ's teachings and he was no more a christian than I'm a biologist. Hitler saw the Jews as an enemy, he however neglected to adhere to a teaching of Christ, "love thy enemy as thy self," now history shows us without a doubt that Hitler did not obey that commandment. Christ taught that we are suppose to take our enemy in feed and cloth him if he has those needs, once again history proves to us that Hitler did none of these things. Instead he put the Jews in concentration camps stripped them of there clothes and starved them before killing them, this evil man never came close to being a christian. Religious politics to gain power is all he was about. I could go on with more that proves Hitler was not a christian but you know nothing of the NT so I see no need to waste time in doing so. Anyone who believes Hitler was anything more than an animal is just plain stupid. An human who cares for others that would claim Hitler was a christian, atheist, or anything else that resembles a human being needs their head examined.



[/quote='GC']You need to study the Bible those who are true believers are changed and no longer considered to be whatever their former self was. So no heaven will not be full of criminals.[/quote]

Aegrus Wrote:I have studied the bible. The old testament, not the new.
God also does not tamper with free will, correct?

You ask this question as if you are not certain of the answer and actually that's what I see. It's apparent you know nothing about freewill and the way God deals with it, learn what freewill is according to God and then we can discuss the matter.

Aegrus Wrote:Assuming that he does not, then a criminal will be just as much of a criminal in heaven as on Earth.

No sinner is allowed into heaven, study the NT before you make such irresponsible statements, christians are a changed people, the old has been put away and a new person emerges, kind of like a caterpillar goes into it's chrysalis stage and emerges as a new creature, a butterfly.

(December 23, 2011 at 12:01 am)Godschild Wrote:
(December 22, 2011 at 11:21 am)Freedom Wrote: To keep a lie going, one must put more lies on top of it. Adherence to this religion requires you to continue to make excuses and pile lies on top of lies, to keep elaborating to the point of ridiculousness. At some point, Godschild, you've got to acknowledge that things just don't add up. You have no clue what this god's purpose is either, so you say "it's a mystery of God." What sort of god would create a game of hide-and-seek, and give you only one lifetime to get it right, or else you burn forever?

GC Wrote:No I do not need to acknowledge that, not know or ever your being ridiculous. I'm sorry that you can not see the truth about God, that is a problem you made for yourself and can only be straightened out by you. I know the over all purpose of God, that is one of the easiest things to know about him, it's in scripture put in plain sight that is if you were to look, I'm sure you want because your not interested in truth, all you care is to feed you ego, how sad is that. I never said I did not know the purpose of God, I said that no one is privy the entire purpose of God or maybe I should say all the workings of God's purpose. God has made things very clear you just don't want to see, and one does not need a life time to get it right , all one needs is a humble moment with God.

Aegrus Wrote:And, again. . . I've read all the scripture. It was a bunch of bullshit about male dominance, a male's right to own women, advocation of intolerance and murder, and a variety of other similarly disusting things. I wonder, have you ever read the old testament, or even the new testament?

Of course, whether you have or not, you're going to reply yes.

Yes I read and study the Bible, all of it, with an open mind and heart and yes I have questions about certain events in the OT and ask God about them. You are now trying to be deceptive, above^ you stated that you haven't read the NT let lone study it. I do not appreciate being called a liar especially by one who is attempting to be deceptive with me.
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(December 23, 2011 at 2:47 am)genkaus Wrote:
(December 23, 2011 at 12:01 am)Godschild Wrote: No I do not need to acknowledge that, not know or ever your being ridiculous. I'm sorry that you can not see the truth about God, that is a problem you made for yourself and can only be straightened out by you. I know the over all purpose of God, that is one of the easiest things to know about him, it's in scripture put in plain sight that is if you were to look, I'm sure you want because your not interested in truth, all you care is to feed you ego, how sad is that. I never said I did not know the purpose of God, I said that no one is privy the entire purpose of God or maybe I should say all the workings of God's purpose. God has made things very clear you just don't want to see, and one does not need a life time to get it right , all one needs is a humble moment with God.


Everyone knows the purpose of god.
Its to establish control over man's life with lure of reward or fear of punishment in the next one.
Its to answer the questions you don't know the answer to without letting anyone on to that fact.
Its to aid people in faking reality so that they may feel that they can escape the consequences of their actions.

That is the purpose of god. For this purpose, god was invented.

WRONG, you are indeed a very shallow minded person.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Messages In This Thread
The justice and mercy of God - by Freedom - December 21, 2011 at 11:59 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Jaysyn - December 21, 2011 at 12:12 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Blam! - December 22, 2011 at 2:45 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Cinjin - December 21, 2011 at 12:42 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Heather - December 21, 2011 at 1:35 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Erinome - December 21, 2011 at 12:50 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Ace Otana - December 21, 2011 at 1:01 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Godschild - December 21, 2011 at 1:41 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Cinjin - December 21, 2011 at 1:58 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Jaysyn - December 21, 2011 at 2:00 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Freedom - December 21, 2011 at 2:54 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Godschild - December 21, 2011 at 7:40 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Freedom - December 22, 2011 at 12:45 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Minimalist - December 22, 2011 at 2:21 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Cinjin - December 22, 2011 at 2:34 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Godschild - December 22, 2011 at 3:14 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by KichigaiNeko - December 22, 2011 at 9:02 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Godschild - December 22, 2011 at 11:32 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by KichigaiNeko - December 22, 2011 at 11:37 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Zen Badger - December 24, 2011 at 5:47 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Aegrus - December 23, 2011 at 1:23 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Godschild - December 23, 2011 at 8:47 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by znk666 - December 21, 2011 at 2:54 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Cinjin - December 21, 2011 at 3:26 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Minimalist - December 21, 2011 at 7:45 pm
The justice and mercy of God - by Zen Badger - December 21, 2011 at 11:19 pm
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Whateverist - December 22, 2011 at 12:21 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 12:28 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Erinome - December 22, 2011 at 1:15 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Nanzilla - December 22, 2011 at 8:59 am
The justice and mercy of God - by Zen Badger - December 22, 2011 at 9:12 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 11:20 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Godschild - December 23, 2011 at 1:00 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Freedom - December 22, 2011 at 11:21 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Godschild - December 23, 2011 at 12:01 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by KichigaiNeko - December 23, 2011 at 1:36 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by genkaus - December 23, 2011 at 2:47 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by The Grand Nudger - December 22, 2011 at 11:38 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Minimalist - December 23, 2011 at 12:36 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Cyberman - December 23, 2011 at 12:56 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Minimalist - December 23, 2011 at 1:11 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 1:42 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Erinome - December 23, 2011 at 2:55 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by genkaus - December 23, 2011 at 3:01 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Freedom - December 23, 2011 at 9:56 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Zen Badger - December 23, 2011 at 9:06 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by KichigaiNeko - December 23, 2011 at 9:45 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Norfolk And Chance - December 23, 2011 at 10:20 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by Epimethean - December 23, 2011 at 11:46 am
RE: The justice and mercy of God - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 11:50 pm

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