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University Protests against the Israeli Incursion into Palestine
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RE: University Protests against the Israeli Incursion into Palestine
(May 2, 2024 at 8:44 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(May 2, 2024 at 5:46 am)NeverEndingIt Wrote: In regards of Hamas, I don't think they were created by Netanyahu; but by the religious Muslims in Gaza after "Fatah" went soft and agreed to work for Israel in the West Bank.

Obviously Netanyahu's intel and the Mossad as a whole was a failure after the October 7 attack by Hamas.

The Gaza slaughter now is just a reaction of anger and frustration by Netanyahu and the CIA for not seeing October 7 coming.

Yes, I agree it would be too simple to say that Netanyahu "created" Hamas. He and his party gave it support, and attempted to use it as a divide-and-conquer strategy, but its birth had various causes. Anyway, that's what I read in the two sources I cite, and in many others. 

Both Israel and the US thought it would be a good idea to support Islamist militants to weaken their enemies, and both times it turned out badly. 

Very hard to say about October 7.... It appears there was a lot of misinformation in the earliest reports -- as is not unusual in events of this kind. It would be easy to be cynical and imagine that Netanyahu's party saw it coming and decided to let it happen, to justify doing what they wanted to do anyway. We can't know for sure. 

One thing that's always frustrating: attacks from the Palestinian side (whether by Hamas or simply spontaneous individual outbursts) are always presented in the US media as unprovoked examples of Muslim evil. Yet of course from the Palestinian side, each is seen as reprisal for some Israeli action -- often a very specific bit of violence. Israelis make much of the hostages held by Hamas, for example, without mentioning the thousands of Palestinians held in Israeli prisons without trial. I don't think these people can even be called hostages, since Israel makes no demands for their release -- they are just held without explanation or legal recourse.

I totally agree that the CIA supported some Islamic groups; but only "some"; to count 2: "Al-Qaeda and ISIS", but it didn't (and couldn't) persuade many groups to join its ranks; Hamas are one of these groups that refused.

Hamas fooled the Mossad and the CIA via many of its generals; most famous one is "Sinwar":

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Him and Hamas are not the insane Sunni Jihadists that the CIA media spent billions on writing imaginary scripts portraying them beheading innocents.

As for October 7 early reports; the attack was a huge surprise as it seems, it caught Israel off guard; which explains that mad tantrum after it by Israel and its allies..a tantrum that butchered 34,000 civilians half of them are women and children. Ironically the real barbarian showed themselves to us.

About the POWs Hamas has -Biden calls them hostages; lol-, these are POWs; Israelies captured from the battlefield, they fought and lost the fight; so they were taken to prison; simple as that.

The American media should mention the scary, inhumane protocol Israel has which is called " the Hannibal Directive":

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RE: University Protests against the Israeli Incursion into Palestine - by NeverEndingIt - May 2, 2024 at 11:12 am

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