(May 1, 2024 at 8:30 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:

I can remember seeing something like that on R/ForwardsFromKlandma. Same basic message, but said in a more bigoted way (like, it was clear Nordic Chad didn’t want to choose between Jews and brown people). I was hoping that someone would try the same basic message, but not racist.

I'm seriously too lazy to want to understand what's going on.

(May 1, 2024 at 10:30 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(May 1, 2024 at 9:22 pm)Belacqua Wrote: In the long run it serves to polarize further the whole world, in a way that is picking up speed fast. Africa, large parts of Asia, what they call the "Global South," are all sick of Western colonialism and turning to Russia and especially China. The more the US is seen as encouraging the oppression of Palestinians, the more that looks like a wise choice. I don't think this gets reported in English much, but it's happening fast.

The US has no business taking sides on either side of this conflict -- except, of course, business. Doing so one way or the other harms American interests, both domestically and internationally. Biden's playing both sides of the road only makes both sides distrust him, and by extension, us.

Yep, I think the world is aware that the only person alive who might be able to stop the genocide is Biden. People will remember that he refused.

I always find it funny when Christian Zionists scream anti-Semitisms or genocidal rhetoric  when a sizable portion of them want the end times to happen. an apocalyptic war that literally sees all Jews die because they didn't accept Jesus......That sounds kind of genocidal and kind of anti-Semitic.

(May 1, 2024 at 11:41 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Yep, I think the world is aware that the only person alive who might be able to stop the genocide is Biden. People will remember that he refused.

So how can Biden stop Hamas from launching rockets on Israel because they have been doing it almost non stop?

For example

Quote:Hamas’s military wing said on Monday that it had launched a salvo of rockets from Lebanon into northern Israel, an apparent attempt by the group to signal that it is still capable of striking within Israel’s borders even as it studies the latest proposal for a cease-fire in Gaza.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/29/world...banon.html

(May 2, 2024 at 1:04 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(May 1, 2024 at 11:41 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Yep, I think the world is aware that the only person alive who might be able to stop the genocide is Biden. People will remember that he refused.

So how can Biden stop Hamas from launching rockets on Israel because they have been doing it almost non stop?

For example

Quote:Hamas’s military wing said on Monday that it had launched a salvo of rockets from Lebanon into northern Israel, an apparent attempt by the group to signal that it is still capable of striking within Israel’s borders even as it studies the latest proposal for a cease-fire in Gaza.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/29/world...banon.html

Bel has to give Biden magic superpowers so he can bitch that America is failing because Biden isn't using those powers. 

It's possible that Netanyahu now regrets that he used to support and fund Hamas.

Although given his recent statements, he may be glad that he helped create an enemy that gives him an excuse to kill many many non-Hamas people.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/...ed-policy/


https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-...our-faces/

(May 2, 2024 at 2:10 am)Belacqua Wrote: It's possible that Netanyahu now regrets that he used to support and fund Hamas.

Although given his recent statements, he may be glad that he helped create an enemy that gives him an excuse to kill many many non-Hamas people.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/...ed-policy/


https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-...our-faces/

In regards of Hamas, I don't think they were created by Netanyahu; but by the religious Muslims in Gaza after "Fatah" went soft and agreed to work for Israel in the West Bank.

Obviously Netanyahu's intel and the Mossad as a whole was a failure after the October 7 attack by Hamas.

The Gaza slaughter now is just a reaction of anger and frustration by Netanyahu and the CIA for not seeing October 7 coming.

(May 1, 2024 at 11:41 pm)Belacqua Wrote:

(May 1, 2024 at 10:30 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The US has no business taking sides on either side of this conflict -- except, of course, business. Doing so one way or the other harms American interests, both domestically and internationally. Biden's playing both sides of the road only makes both sides distrust him, and by extension, us.

Yep, I think the world is aware that the only person alive who might be able to stop the genocide is Biden. People will remember that he refused.

Nonsense. Netanyahu could stop it. Putin, Xi, Haniyeh, Salman, and probably half a handful more could bring this nonsense to a screeching halt. Biden's conduct has been nothing short of reprehensible, but this idea that he's the only one who can put an end to this butchery is just simplistic and wrong.

Boru

(May 2, 2024 at 5:46 am)NeverEndingIt Wrote:

(May 2, 2024 at 2:10 am)Belacqua Wrote: It's possible that Netanyahu now regrets that he used to support and fund Hamas.

Although given his recent statements, he may be glad that he helped create an enemy that gives him an excuse to kill many many non-Hamas people.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/...ed-policy/


https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-...our-faces/

In regards of Hamas, I don't think they were created by Netanyahu; but by the religious Muslims in Gaza after "Fatah" went soft and agreed to work for Israel in the West Bank.

Obviously Netanyahu's intel and the Mossad as a whole was a failure after the October 7 attack by Hamas.

The Gaza slaughter now is just a reaction of anger and frustration by Netanyahu and the CIA for not seeing October 7 coming.

Yes, I agree it would be too simple to say that Netanyahu "created" Hamas. He and his party gave it support, and attempted to use it as a divide-and-conquer strategy, but its birth had various causes. Anyway, that's what I read in the two sources I cite, and in many others. 

Both Israel and the US thought it would be a good idea to support Islamist militants to weaken their enemies, and both times it turned out badly. 

Very hard to say about October 7.... It appears there was a lot of misinformation in the earliest reports -- as is not unusual in events of this kind. It would be easy to be cynical and imagine that Netanyahu's party saw it coming and decided to let it happen, to justify doing what they wanted to do anyway. We can't know for sure. 

One thing that's always frustrating: attacks from the Palestinian side (whether by Hamas or simply spontaneous individual outbursts) are always presented in the US media as unprovoked examples of Muslim evil. Yet of course from the Palestinian side, each is seen as reprisal for some Israeli action -- often a very specific bit of violence. Israelis make much of the hostages held by Hamas, for example, without mentioning the thousands of Palestinians held in Israeli prisons without trial. I don't think these people can even be called hostages, since Israel makes no demands for their release -- they are just held without explanation or legal recourse.