RE: Damned Catholics
May 30, 2024 at 1:02 pm
(This post was last modified: May 30, 2024 at 1:05 pm by Fake Messiah.)
Oh well, most, if not all, of Catholic clergy are gays so it doesn't matter. It's just gay boys having fun with slurs.
POPE FRANCIS
GAY SLUR AIN'T REALLY A BIG DEAL
... Says Openly Gay Priest
Father James Alison -- a practicing Catholic and theologian in Madrid, and who's openly gay explains when the Pope speaks to Italian bishops behind closed doors, he's most likely addressing a group primarily composed of gay men -- with FJA theorizing he's likely fully aware of their sexuality 'cause he lives with them.
Father James explains it like this ... he says among bishops, there's usually a group of gay men who hypocritically believe the Church's ban on gays doesn't apply to them personally -- but they don't have any issue imposing it on others.
https://www.tmz.com/2024/05/28/father-ja...obic-slur/
Meanwhile, another gay priest doesn't find Pope's slur so benign
I am a gay priest. We need more than an apology for Pope Francis’ homophobic slur.
I am a priest who is publicly open about belonging to the L.G.B.T.Q. community. As a gay man, I was shocked and saddened by the Holy Father’s reported use of an offensive slur during a discussion with Italian bishops. While ostensibly justifying a policy of refusing to accept gay men into seminaries, the pope reportedly stated that there was too much “frociaggine” in seminaries. Let’s be clear about the slur that was used so we also understand the controversy. The word is an offensive term often employed in a pejorative/derogatory manner to refer to gay men, one vulgar enough not to be translated here.
But regardless of the speaker’s intent, such language is dehumanizing. Slurs and offensive names are perhaps too easily dismissed by those who are not their targets. But make no mistake: Derogatory slurs dehumanize sexual minorities. They call our humanity into question.
Moreover, the harm goes beyond those who were directly offended by the pope’s homophobic slur. The pope’s use of such language gives support to public policies that endanger the lives of sexual minorities around the world. Those who seek to exclude gay, lesbian and trans people from social life and juridical protection can—and will—take comfort and solace from the Holy Father’s words.
Are gay, lesbian, bisexual, trans and queer people fully equal members of the body of Christ? The debacle over Francis’ remarks betrays the obvious answer: not yet.
https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/20...ent-248039
POPE FRANCIS
GAY SLUR AIN'T REALLY A BIG DEAL
... Says Openly Gay Priest
Father James Alison -- a practicing Catholic and theologian in Madrid, and who's openly gay explains when the Pope speaks to Italian bishops behind closed doors, he's most likely addressing a group primarily composed of gay men -- with FJA theorizing he's likely fully aware of their sexuality 'cause he lives with them.
Father James explains it like this ... he says among bishops, there's usually a group of gay men who hypocritically believe the Church's ban on gays doesn't apply to them personally -- but they don't have any issue imposing it on others.
https://www.tmz.com/2024/05/28/father-ja...obic-slur/
Meanwhile, another gay priest doesn't find Pope's slur so benign
I am a gay priest. We need more than an apology for Pope Francis’ homophobic slur.
I am a priest who is publicly open about belonging to the L.G.B.T.Q. community. As a gay man, I was shocked and saddened by the Holy Father’s reported use of an offensive slur during a discussion with Italian bishops. While ostensibly justifying a policy of refusing to accept gay men into seminaries, the pope reportedly stated that there was too much “frociaggine” in seminaries. Let’s be clear about the slur that was used so we also understand the controversy. The word is an offensive term often employed in a pejorative/derogatory manner to refer to gay men, one vulgar enough not to be translated here.
But regardless of the speaker’s intent, such language is dehumanizing. Slurs and offensive names are perhaps too easily dismissed by those who are not their targets. But make no mistake: Derogatory slurs dehumanize sexual minorities. They call our humanity into question.
Moreover, the harm goes beyond those who were directly offended by the pope’s homophobic slur. The pope’s use of such language gives support to public policies that endanger the lives of sexual minorities around the world. Those who seek to exclude gay, lesbian and trans people from social life and juridical protection can—and will—take comfort and solace from the Holy Father’s words.
Are gay, lesbian, bisexual, trans and queer people fully equal members of the body of Christ? The debacle over Francis’ remarks betrays the obvious answer: not yet.
https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/20...ent-248039
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"