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Finally an atheist proper, with views and questions
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RE: Finally an atheist proper, with views and questions
(June 2, 2024 at 4:53 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I think so too. I don't feel like I should do good or nice things for other people, but God deserves better.

Well, the way you feel isn't required to follow any logical rules or flow from any logical premise.  Though, in swinburnes formulation, while he feels the need to assert that our own moral knowledge comes from god - it's still the case that moral facts themselves do not.  Thus, there's some thing (we can call it whatever we want) that deserves our overpraise (if anything does - objectively speaking) more than god for our present moral condition.  It was only by virtue of that x existing that god could pass along such knowledge by whatever means in the first place.  

This is an untenable position for many theists, as swinburne acknowledges, placing gods as subordinate to whatever x that is, morally speaking. The very moment we begin to posit ideas about what that x is we will also find that claims of deference due to existential necessity must also pass through gods and to whatever that x is, as said god existed in whatever that was and was bound by whatever rules or limitations inherent to said x.
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RE: Finally an atheist proper, with views and questions - by The Grand Nudger - June 2, 2024 at 5:01 pm

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