(June 11, 2024 at 3:53 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote:(June 11, 2024 at 3:41 pm)Questor Wrote: I don't see horoscopes as being able to be directly predictive over any period of time, or able to be proven, as they are the opinon of the person giving the horoscope. By their nature, they are ever changing based on the movements of the stars for a single individual, and suggest presumptive occurrences rather than specifically naming them.
Biblical prophecies are usually open warnings to the people concerned, namely Israel, or statements of future events that amend the results of said warnings. The first are to warn them of what they need to do, or not do to escape the consequences of their behavior. When disregarded, they have the predicted consequences laid out clearly. When not a warning, but a statement of future clemency, they are descriptions of future events that amend or relieve the consequences already received.
Interpretation does not seem to be necessary of prophecies as given by YHWH to the prophet. Descriptions of visions of the future seen by various prophets are another kettle of fish altogether, even if warnings of events to come. What was seen in a dream-like trance, particularly of far future events, probably made no sense to the prophets, who duly noted them down as directed to and left the understanding of them to the time in which they occur.
But I am not an expert in prophecy, nor a diviner of dreams.
How can the movement of a star hundreds or thousands of light years away have any effect on a person? A car driving past will have a greater gravitational field than a distant star, I can't think of any other force that a star can produce. (the same is also true for planets too!)
I don't know, but some people are quite entranced by the idea.
I believe the point being made was that the liklihood of prophecy being accurate was akin to that of a horoscope being accurate.
I might check your horoscope, if I knew how to do so, but how would I ever discern its accuracy? It would be about your personal life, and how you subjectively saw it to apply to you.
Prophecy being specifically targeted to the history of a well-tracked group of people allows each prophecy to be checked objectively.