(June 16, 2024 at 3:29 pm)Questor Wrote:...I mean, there pretty much have to be at least a few people who are the children of a religious movement that blossomed in the seventies? Are you telling me here that you converted? From what?(June 16, 2024 at 2:29 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It would be interesting, we don't get alot of you guys here...and I don't think I've ever met a second gen one. I wonder whether your experience as a messianic jew is analogous to second and third gen wiccans.There are no second generation believers in Messiah, as it is not an inherited trait. And I have no knowledge of what wiccans physically pass down to their children.
Quote:Christianity is a religion that sprang from a denomination of Judaism, and hybridized away from it rather a lot after the first century, falling into open idolatry. To me, and many other Jews that follow Yeshua, some, if not all, forms of that religion have adopted pagan Greek and Roman notions that are in direct contravention to Torah, which observant Jews attempt to follow. Yeshua was a Torah abiding Jew, and so were his Jewish followers until they had died out, or gone underground, avoiding the persecution by Christians in the second century onwards.
Many non-Jewish believers do attempt to follow Torah, even as I do, and in truth none of us do it well, but once a Gentile believer in Yeshua resolves to do so, they have become god-fearers, proselytes to Judaism, who are leaving the gentile pagan world behind bit by bit.
Jewish believers in Yeshua are merely walking in the ways of their fathers, and remain Jews, who then, of their own desire, choose to follow Yeshua, and trust in him as their Messiah.
I'm familiar with the pitch, but I was more interested in your lived experience.
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