(August 18, 2024 at 3:31 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:Göring was an accomplished fighter pilot who earned the "Pour le Merite". He regularly put his life on the line in combat (and ironically in an insurrection). Yet he was a shameless looter and glutton, vain and cruel, only out for his own interest and advancement. Another ace pilot (Udet) killed himself because of Görings vices.(August 18, 2024 at 2:19 pm)Pat Mustard Wrote: Vance isn't really a veteran, he got one of those cushy jobs reserved for rich kids too stupid to get into officer school and too unruly to stay from out in front of a judge pleading guilty. Despite being deployed to Iraq, his "journalist" job never saw him leaving the green zone.
He's indeed a veteran, just not a combat veteran, same as Walz, same as I. And quite frankly, we each could have been asked to die for our country even in peacetime without seeing combat.
How did he get a "cushy job reserved for rich kids too stupid to get into officer school and too unruly to stay from out in front of a judge pleading guilty" when he wasn't a rich kid?
Finally, the US Armed Forces no longer accept recruits with an open court case against them.
He is an honorably-discharged veteran of the USMC. I say that even as I detest him and his politics.
Having served well for your country, having fought bravely, means nothing, without context.
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