2024 US Presidential Election

[Belacqua]

I think he gets it fine, @BrianSoddingBoru4. He -- and I -- simply don't agree. Not being or supporting a cunt is no reason for acclaim; that's a low bar indeed, in my opinion.

Exactly. Basic decency isn't something to be rewarded, it is something to be expected. Though in times like this not going with the wave and not voting on fascists could be a badge of honor I guess but it only shows how much standards slipped.

Back when Bush was starting his unnecessary, immoral war we thought that his basic decency was in question. The wars killed a lot of people, after all. 

Like Bush-era Republicans, current Democrats support war, censorship, and a border wall (Harris recently reversed her position on this; she supports more wall now). 

We are all revved up to hate Trump now. That's good; there's a lot to hate there. But that doesn't forgive the evils of the past, or justify recreating those evils in the Democratic Party. It doesn't mean that the officials who helped with that evil are now respectable.

It's possible for both sides to be bad.