RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
September 12, 2024 at 7:37 pm
(This post was last modified: September 12, 2024 at 7:39 pm by Ravenshire.)
(September 12, 2024 at 7:08 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(September 12, 2024 at 4:42 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Walz, as VP candidate, doesn't have as much pressure to be, or as much to lose by not being, as calm, cool, collected, and honestly, Presidential, as Harris was, and had to be. He can make the jabs at Vance, and even Trump, that Kamala can't, as he already has with his "if Vance can get off his couch" comment. I think Vance will be running just as fast and as far away from further debates as Trump is.
Vance is the second worst thing to happen to Trump after Biden stepped down, and it's entirely self-inflicted, where picking Walz seems to be the second best, after Biden stepped, down for Harris.
(September 12, 2024 at 6:58 pm)Silver Wrote: Especially since the EC can choose to elect Trump over Harris.
It’s not really a ‘choice’.
Boru
Actually, in many states it is:
Faithless Electors:
Wiki Wrote:As of 2024, 38 states and the District of Columbia have laws that require electors to vote for the candidates for whom they pledged to vote, though in half of these jurisdictions there is no enforcement mechanism. In 14 states, votes contrary to the pledge are voided and the respective electors are replaced, and in two of these states they may also be fined. Three other states impose a penalty on faithless electors but still count their votes as cast.[1]
Colorado was the first state to void an elector's faithless vote, which occurred during the 2016 election. Minnesota also invoked this law for the first time in 2016 when an elector pledged to Hillary Clinton attempted to vote for Bernie Sanders instead.[9] Until 2008, Minnesota's electors cast secret ballots. Although the final count would reveal the occurrence of faithless votes, it was impossible to determine which electors were faithless. After an unknown elector was faithless in 2004, Minnesota amended its law to require public balloting of the electors' votes and invalidate any vote cast for someone other than the candidate to whom the elector was pledged.[10]
Washington became the first state to fine faithless electors after the 2016 election, in the wake of that state having four faithless elector votes. In 2019, the state changed its law for future elections, to void faithless votes and replace the respective electors instead of fining them.[11]
There are enough states where faithless elector voting is allowed, or there is no enforcement of the law against it, that the choice by a few electors could change the outcome in a close electoral race. It's never happened, and it's not likely to, but it certainly can.
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