Quote:You're stuck on attempted border crossings. How many total illegals living here, and how did they get here? I'll bet you have no fucking clue, except for what the tangerine twit has spouted in your ear.
As of July of last year, over 11 million undocumented immigrants are estimated to live in the United States, based upon the estimates of several government and private institutions. I myself live in a part of the United States with the highest rates of undocumented citizens due to our proximity to the border.
As I have already stated at multiple times, they have come here in a variety of ways; as you two or three have pointed out now, the lion's share come via over-expired work visas.
As *I* have stated at multiple times millions have also chosen the path of border crossing; either through smuggling at legal crossroads which end up in 40+ dead migrants being found in the back of a truck (my hometown) or through the mountains via cartel; either funded by foreign interests or, more often, through being sold as a slave in the United States once smuggled across the border - if you resist, your family back home tortured and killed.
The open border *does* *not* *work* - loose border policy leads to cartels that have more economic influence than medium-sized countries using them as drug mules and human slaves to be trafficked and exploited.
You talk down to me while defending a system that is exploiting millions of innocent people you claim to care about; let's just talk the facts and save the condemnation for when we have an actual leg up on the opponent.
Quote:You want a sound plan to reduce illegal immigration? Let's work together with Mexico to make them a wealthy nation.
Mexico isn't interested.
The way to make Mexico a "wealthier nation" is to cut off the drug routes between the Chihuahua Desert and at the points of entry where corruption has allowed a deluge of drugs to flood across the border. The current Mexican government of Obrador and Sheinbaum made a deal with cartels like Chapo's Sinaloa and decided that they were okay with the cartels as long as they weren't causing violence and made things look good.
That peace has only lasted so long, but that is a story for another time - the short of it is that Mexico's Social Democrat government has no interest in working with America and has been rebellious since the Obama administration; something we deal with a lot in Texas is Mexico denying us water down stream, leading to our peach and apricot industry completely dying out after over 150 years of production.
Quote:ut, your mango man-crush has you convinced that it's all about the southern border and those southern countries sending us their criminals. Do your own research and get to the truth. It's out there if you're willing to break out of your self imposed bubble of willful ignorance.
You realize the irony of telling me to "do my own research" while quoting up-to-date numbers on immigration since yours were half-a-decade out of date, right?