Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory

[Aegrus]

What I meant by my previous post was that there are far better ways to protect a raped woman than by having her marry her rapist.

You said that an unmarried non-virgin would not be wanted by any men, so the rapist must marry her and be forced to provide for her. Sadly, in reality, the rapist would likely just rape her many more times, and be the absolute minimum he was required to be as a husband. He would provide no emotional comfort, and the woman would probably be miserable for most of her life. So this intended solution that the bible proposes fails in a way that a third grader could predict.

I propose that a better alternative would be to remove the stigma associated with not being a virgin. That way, the woman could go on to lead a normal life. But of course, the bible doesn't say that- because that would involve making women equal to men.

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Sure, these laws may apply to biblical times but they still prove my point that the bible and the god in it is sexist and one who who provides no justice for the rape victims themselves, putting more concern about what harm it does to the father's reputation.

Also according to biblical beliefs, the victim in such a case, though now married and not cast off, would still be expected to be "dutiful wife" too, to "obey" her rapist husband, to honor her rapist husband, etc. There is nothing in that at all that is justice whatsoever, it's just mental. 100% of all women raped, I'm sure even in those days would rather be single...nay, stick a fork in their eye, than marry their rapists.

Well, depends on what kind of a justice you're looking for.
If the rapist does not want to marry the woman he raped, he'll be stoned.
He does not have any other choice but to marry her and provide for her.
And well, indeed, if you are married, you are expected to fulfill the duties of marriage.
And let's read the verse again:

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry her because he has violated her.

It says, if a man is "caught". Meaning, the guy must be spotted, caught, and brought before the woman's father, and pay him dowry.

However, it's quite unlikely that a rapist will be that stupid to allow himself to be caught on the act.
Instead, if the woman is raped, and he had not been caught on the act, there would be nothing to prove that he had raped her, as they lacked the technology to actually catch rapists via their DNA.
So, in that case, one must refer to the following verses:

"Exodus 22:16-17
16 "If a man ENTICES a virgin who is NOT BETROTHED (engaged), and lies with her, he shall surely PAY the bride-price for her to be his wife.
17 If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall PAY MONEY according to the bride-price of virgins."

Here is a verse that talks about consensual sex between two unmarried parties. In cases of false rape accusations, same, also applies.

Deuteronomy 23,24:
"If a young woman who is a virgin is betrothed to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones, the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he humbled his neighbor's wife; so you shall put away the evil from among you."

Here, we have a case of consensual sex between two parties, whereas one is bethothed to someone else, and the man flaunts the soon-to-be wife of another man(a case of either fornication, or adultery).

Another case:
"But if a man finds a betrothed young woman in the countryside, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lay with her shall die.
But you shall do nothing to the young woman; there is in the young woman no sin deserving of death, for just as when a man rises against his neighbor and kills him, even so is this matter.
For he found her in the countryside, and the betrothed young woman cried out, but there was no one to save her."

In this case, the woman is also betrothed(case of rape).
Speaking in such terms, we can say that here, it actually comes down whether the relations between the two were consensual, and of course, whether the woman in question was betrothed.

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So. . . you're supporting the bible? Because you seem to have used accurate quotes, but they don't really support the religious assertion that the bible is moral.