RE: Ben Shapiro vs Neil deGrasse Tyson: The WAR Over Transgender Issues
January 3, 2025 at 7:12 am
(This post was last modified: January 3, 2025 at 7:13 am by Sheldon.)
I doubt that Dawkins's views are similar to Shapiro's, since Shapiro's is driven primarily by religious bigotry, his latching onto science here, seems little more than opportunism. FWIW here is Richard Dawkins's email explaining his reasons for his resignation:
"Dear Annie Laurie and Dan
It is with real sadness, because of my personal regard for you both, that I feel obliged to resign from the Honorary Board of FFRF. Publishing the silly and unscientific “What is a Woman” article by Kat Grant was a minor error of judgment, redeemed by the decision to publish a rebuttal by a distinguished scientist from the relevant field, namely Biology, Jerry Coyne. But alas, the sequel was an act of unseemly panic when you caved in to hysterical squeals from predictable quarters and retrospectively censored that excellent rebuttal. Moreover, to summarily take it down without even informing the author of your intention was an act of lamentable discourtesy to a member of your own Honorary Board. A Board which I now leave with regret.
Although I formally resign, I would like to remain on friendly terms with you, and I look forward to cooperating in the future. And to delightful musical evenings if the opportunity arises.
Yours sincerely,
Richard"
I tend to agree with Neil deGrasse Tyson on this, and as he told Shapiro in their debate, "If someone wants to identify in a way that differs from their biological sex, why would I even care?"
I guess these kinds of growing pains are what societies must go through, when long held views are changing rapidly, hopefully extreme views and hysteria from both sides will eventually be marginalised to the point where they become irrelevant.
"Dear Annie Laurie and Dan
It is with real sadness, because of my personal regard for you both, that I feel obliged to resign from the Honorary Board of FFRF. Publishing the silly and unscientific “What is a Woman” article by Kat Grant was a minor error of judgment, redeemed by the decision to publish a rebuttal by a distinguished scientist from the relevant field, namely Biology, Jerry Coyne. But alas, the sequel was an act of unseemly panic when you caved in to hysterical squeals from predictable quarters and retrospectively censored that excellent rebuttal. Moreover, to summarily take it down without even informing the author of your intention was an act of lamentable discourtesy to a member of your own Honorary Board. A Board which I now leave with regret.
Although I formally resign, I would like to remain on friendly terms with you, and I look forward to cooperating in the future. And to delightful musical evenings if the opportunity arises.
Yours sincerely,
Richard"
I tend to agree with Neil deGrasse Tyson on this, and as he told Shapiro in their debate, "If someone wants to identify in a way that differs from their biological sex, why would I even care?"
I guess these kinds of growing pains are what societies must go through, when long held views are changing rapidly, hopefully extreme views and hysteria from both sides will eventually be marginalised to the point where they become irrelevant.