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Another example of the religious war on science
April 25, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Christina Dias, a computer science teacher at a catholic school, was fired when the staff discovered that she was receiving IVF treatment in order to have a child. She was called to the Bishop's office, and had to hear this allegedly celibate man who doesn't know the first thing about having or wanting a family, shout at her and call her a sinner. He told her she was a "grave and immoral sinner" who would go to hell for wanting to have a child when God didn't want her to have one. She was fired even though her position at the school has nothing to do with religion and does not require her to teach religious doctrine.
Apparently the Catholic church believes IVF is murder because some embryos may be destroyed in the process. We are talking about a bunch of cells here, not even a fetus. A bunch of cells that would never develop into anything unless they are implanted into a woman. Thankfully Mrs. Dias has a mind of her own, continued the treatment, and now has an evil child due to the product of sin (according to church beliefs.) Now she is suing the church and has been given the go ahead for her lawsuit to proceed to federal court.
Why does the catholic church hate science? Why is it evil for an infertile woman to not accept that this is "what God wants" and trust science to give her a chance at having a family? This is the same church that goes around Africa telling people that condoms cause AIDS. The Catholic church has a long history of hating science, and now they want to intrude into your ability to make medical decisions on your own. Should the church be able to get away with controlling people's personal decisions when it comes to medical treatment? Do you think the church is justified in firing this woman and telling her that her desire to want a family are the acts of a dirty sinner who is going to hell?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...g-IVF.html
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RE: Another example of the religious war on science
April 25, 2012 at 2:39 pm
(April 25, 2012 at 2:35 pm)Miami_Marlins_fan Wrote: Why does the catholic church hate science?
Is this a rethorical question?
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RE: Another example of the religious war on science
April 25, 2012 at 3:08 pm
The better (or at least more accurate ) question is "why does the catholic church hate women?"
Answer....goes back to that stupid fucking bible of theirs.
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RE: Another example of the religious war on science
April 25, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Quote:They at first tried to fire her simply for being pregnant and single, but realized they would be violating federal and state anti-discrimination laws.
So instead they decided the single mother violated Roman Catholic Church doctrine by using artificial insemination - which is considered a 'gravely immoral act' by the Catholic church.
 Seriously?
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RE: Another example of the religious war on science
April 25, 2012 at 4:28 pm
The thing that gets me the most is that this is the same church that protects child molesters, and protects their jobs so they can abuse more kids. Yet if a woman wants to have IVF to have a family, she is branded an evil sinner and fired from her job. Anyone notice the double standard?
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RE: Another example of the religious war on science
April 25, 2012 at 4:33 pm
I wasn't aware that they had any standards, let alone two wholly independent sets of them.
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RE: Another example of the religious war on science
April 25, 2012 at 4:40 pm
The people who have dedicated their lives to the church are quite upset that science has contradicted their beliefs, and it is obvious that like someone who refuses to be wrong even in the face of evidence, they just use their power childishly to lash out at those that they can. There are also many who just don't understand(or have not taken the time to understand) science and rely on old traditions to explain their world view. Which doesn't make it right, it's still such a cop out.
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RE: Another example of the religious war on science
April 25, 2012 at 4:43 pm
So, my child is an abomination in the eyes of the Catholic church? Good. Fuck them and their stupid fucking cult.
ETA: I'm just glad they can't go around burning abominations at the stake anymore.
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RE: Another example of the religious war on science
April 25, 2012 at 4:45 pm
WHAT STATE is this victim of theocracy & theocrats occuring in?
Jail the Nazi Pimp Pope Joe Ratzinger alias Benedick.... he's killed 6 million women a year denying them life saving abortions & deadly disease preventing condoms & covered the pedophile felony rape of thousands of children for decades....
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this teacher should win a million dollar judgement against this "employer" who employed a teacher of math or science or language that has NOTHING TO DO WITH HER OVARIES OR UTERUS OR EGGS OR SPOUSES SPERM...
BUT THE ATTACK ON SANDRA FLUKE IS WORSE.... she testifies truthfully about how Georgetown Law School caused her friend to become sterile, unable to have children for the rest of her life....
how ovarian cysts are treated with the same pills women take for having sex without condoms
....how religion has caused the pain of vulvadynia to go untreated...
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(April 25, 2012 at 2:35 pm)Miami_Marlins_fan Wrote: Christina Dias, a computer science teacher at a catholic school, was fired when the staff discovered that she was receiving IVF treatment in order to have a child. She was called to the Bishop's office, and had to hear this allegedly celibate man who doesn't know the first thing about having or wanting a family, shout at her and call her a sinner. He told her she was a "grave and immoral sinner" who would go to hell for wanting to have a child when God didn't want her to have one. She was fired even though her position at the school has nothing to do with religion and does not require her to teach religious doctrine.
Apparently the Catholic church believes IVF is murder because some embryos may be destroyed in the process. We are talking about a bunch of cells here, not even a fetus. A bunch of cells that would never develop into anything unless they are implanted into a woman. Thankfully Mrs. Dias has a mind of her own, continued the treatment, and now has an evil child due to the product of sin (according to church beliefs.) Now she is suing the church and has been given the go ahead for her lawsuit to proceed to federal court.
Why does the catholic church hate science? Why is it evil for an infertile woman to not accept that this is "what God wants" and trust science to give her a chance at having a family? This is the same church that goes around Africa telling people that condoms cause AIDS. The Catholic church has a long history of hating science, and now they want to intrude into your ability to make medical decisions on your own. Should the church be able to get away with controlling people's personal decisions when it comes to medical treatment? Do you think the church is justified in firing this woman and telling her that her desire to want a family are the acts of a dirty sinner who is going to hell?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...g-IVF.html
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RE: Another example of the religious war on science
April 25, 2012 at 4:53 pm
(April 25, 2012 at 2:35 pm)Miami_Marlins_fan Wrote: Why does the catholic church hate science?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...g-IVF.html
Because if they promoted logic and common sense, they wouldn't have any followers to promote anything to.
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