Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory

[LarissaAnn]

God's LAW for a rapist to marry his victim is not MORAL

like i said, you must take the culture into account in order to deturmine this which you have not done.

Are you telling me no Christian has EVER stolen before in history or in today's society?

quite the contrary i believe they have and i believe they knew it was wrong. though i believe there are many who see nothing wrong with it. this is the problem i'm addressing. all have sinned however how can someone do what's right when they don't know what's right?

The Crusades, The Inquisition, The Salem Witch Trials, sexual abuse of minors in Catholic churches today

there are always those who will abuse scripture for evil purposes, however if not religion it will be something else. they will use politics, play the blame card, use fear, hate... wars and such happen inevitably and there is not much we can do about it other than to convince others of what's right.

Christians don't follow their own morals very well do they?

well all you have to do to know that is look at Romans 3:23. there's a difference in sinning and not knowing the difference. yes, it's wrong to sin; however no one is perfect and no one can be perfect morally in every way.

Bill Gates is an Atheist look at how generous and giving he is without having the bible tell him to do it.

yes but he also has so much money he doesn't know what to do with it. you can give examples of how people can do good things reguardless of their religous views but i'm looking at majority.

let me do some research on the court rulings and get back to you

1. I'm an avid history fan so yes I take the culture into account, the barbaric, uncivilized culture that biblical times were...and the book containing their god who supported it. IF the bible is set for such distant times why should it be taken seriously today if it was written for the people 2000 years ago. What does God have to say about rape victims today? Does he still think they should be the wives of their rapists if not where are your sources on paper not personal observation that he has changed his mind?

2. The problem you were addressing is that without the bible people have begun to steal more in today's society...I said that Christians have had the bible for years but know it says "don't steal" didn't stop them...is that not the same thing as non believers not listening to a law. Why are Christians so much more pardonable?

3. "There are always those who will abuse scriptures for evil purpose" And THAT is proof why religion does more harm than good...MILLIONS have been killed because of religion and today look at 9/11 and in a society where we now have nuclear weapons and tell me thats religious danger is not getting worse.

4. So an Atheist is damned if he has money and damned if he gives it away to charities? Loving your neighbor as yourself played out very well there didn't it? The Catholic church sits on BILLIONS that it could donate to the poor and unfortunate all over the world...instead it has gold encrusted robes, fancy palaces, Mercedes Pope-mobiles, etc. etc.

You still didn't answer my question. If making gay illegal is not intolerance as you say [I quote: it's not intolerant in the same way it's not intolerant that bestiality, polygamy, and necrofilia is illegal] then what do you think the fitting punishment should be? For people who've never done any personal harm to you at all. Do you agree with your bible that they should be executed?