Ben Shapiro vs Neil deGrasse Tyson: The WAR Over Transgender Issues

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And there's your subjectivity.

How so?

Who defines what? And by what standard?

Sure, but you and I can count frogs. How do you count morals? First we need to agree on what is or isn't moral. If we share the same definition, we can agree an act is moral or immoral. But that definition is not something we can point to in nature and say, "That, my friend, is a frog."

But isn't counting also subjective? You might want to count frogs by counting object A as 1 frog and frog B as 2 frogs.

You might say that object 1 is 1 frog because it has 4 legs.
Object 2 is 2 frogs because it has a pencil that is glued to a styrofoam cup.

Object 3 is 1.35 frogs because it is a painting of object 1 using watercolors.

As you can see, an agreement must be achieved.
Did I show that definitions are subjective?

You kinda missed my point here. To put it plain for those of hobbled thinking, you cannot count off or point to objective morals at all. I can support the objectivity of gravity's existence by pointing to the bottom of the cliff. I can prove the existence of an axe-head by splitting wood. Neither you nor I can prove our sensible morality by pointing to a physical fact.

The only thing you can do is say "I think this is wrong" and hope to win the crowd. It's not like you can point to a stone tablet handed down from a mountaintop -- and even if you could, the objectivity of those moral precepts is very definitely questionable.

Is killing immoral because some book says so? Is killing immoral because we don't want to be killed? Is killing moral because someone is trying to kill us?