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Sorry if I wasn’t clear. I was talking about the dictionary definition. It doesn't have circular reasoning or begging, which is good. The problem is that it is vague.

It seems clear enough, morality is defined as "principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour."

I think the definition of the word morality makes it unclear 

Makes what unclear?

I don’t think it is clear enough because the definition is founded on the words “right” and “wrong” and those words aren’t clear.
So, go ahead and define right and wrong.

Can you demonstrate objectively that causing pain is immoral? Otherwise as I said in that quote, you are ultimately resting your moral assertion on a subjective claim.

We can do it via steps.
Do you think that humans have pain sensors?

    The rape part was objectively immoral.

I disagree, but if you think you can demonstrate this without resorting to a subjective moral claim please do.

Why do yo disagree? Show me your logical steps as to how you reached the conclusion that thinking rape is wrong is subjective?

    It is similar to your rape case. A damage is occurring to person X.

Yes but the claim that causing damage to someone or something is immoral, is a subjective claim, it is not objectively true. just try asking why something is immoral, and see if it does not ultimately rest on a subjective claim.

Like I said previously, the definition of the word morality is unclear.
Just saying so and such is moral and this other thing is immoral is insufficient.
Just saying this is right and this is wrong is insufficient.
You need to support such claims by how you cam up with that conclusion.

Based on what I have observed, quite often, humans have a lot of similarity. They are machines. Their bodies essentially functions the same way.
Based on what I have observed, when humans talk about morality, quite often, they are talking about their pain sensors, their emotions that lead them to desire survival, psychological pain.
There is another portion of humans, the theists (christians) that claim that morality comes from god and whatever he says is immoral, is immoral. These guys are talking something utterly different. They have a definition of morality that is different than mine.

Yes but the claim that causing damage to someone or something is immoral, is a subjective claim

How so? If I define immoral as the word damage.
Rape causes damage therefore rape is immoral.
You have already agreed that rape causes damage.
(In this case, we are talking about inflicting damage to an emotional machine.)