Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory

[LarissaAnn]

What does God have to say about rape victims today? Does he still think they should be the wives of their rapists? If not, where are your sources in writing not personal opinion that he has changed his mind? Basic point being don't you think since the bible was written for a culture 2000 years ago, as you've said, that God should give us an updated version for our modern times?

yes he thinks it's wrong. the punishment is decided by the government. the bible says to obey the law of the land. this can be found in Romans 13:1-7.

If making gay illegal is not intolerance, then what do you think the fitting punishment should be for homosexuality? Jail? Or the traditional Christian route in the bible with execution?

i don't think it should be punished in today's society. forinication and often times adultery are not punished in this country and i don't see homosexuality as different. i think God will deal with it.

What is more immoral or damaging to a society, non believers suing for a stupid reason or a woman in the middle east stoned to death because the quran said to stone her?

the woman being stoned. this is b/c they have morals, but they are wrong. women should not be treated that way.

Does this not prove that just because you have a holy book to teach morals in a soceity doesn't mean everyone will do so?

that statement is true for everyone. no one can follow all those morals perfectly but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. and at the very least we need to teach humanistic morals to everyone so they at least know some common sense though the bible is what i believe to be the best moral code ever written. the golden rule originates from it which is considered the best moral phrase ever come up with (Matthew 7:12).

I'd say no, don't get rid of politics just because Hitler was mental case. However I do support getting rid of certain branches of politics, Nazism, Socialism, dictatorships etc. or politics fueled by hysteria and brainwashing absolutely get rid of them...and to be honest religion doesn't walk too far a path from that sort of craze that put Hitler in power in my opinion, as in following blindly and without question and turning a blind eye to atrocities it committed.

agreed. i'm actually surprised you said socialism. there are a lot of left wings who want socialism for all. i'm on the right myself.

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when i said this country i meant america. sorry i forget i'm in japan lol

Thanks for your answers.

1. Fair enough and good eye but by that concept that also means that God is okay with gay marriage so long as it takes place in the states of Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont and New Hampshire because they've passed laws making gay marriage legal in their specific states. If that's not okay, then your previous statement is invalid and does not prove that God has changed his stance on rape victims' marrying their attackers. He still has not said, "As time goes by, my laws shall adapt to fit more morally the cultures of the time."

It also means God is okay with abortion too as that is a legally protected right in the United States as well.

2. Do you agree then that using religion as a guide for morals as you previously stated is not the one and only best policy for a good society since that's exactly what they do in some areas of the middle east with brutal results. On a non-confrontational seriously consider it note, can you not at least consider the idea that Atheists can be good people and follow the good morals that one finds in bible without the bible itself being their source or influence? Being good just for the sake of being good with no expectations in return? Say for instance a car crash on a highway, a burning car with a person inside who could be saved, atheists and Christians alike pull together to save the person, are they not both good people doing a moral act?

No worries, I know you meant this country but I look at religious influences on a global as well as national scale.