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Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory
LarissaAnn Wrote:Where does it say in the bible that the laws will stay but the punishments will change?

no it doesn't specifically address this. it does leave government the role for enforcing law though. and there were instances where Jesus said things like "he who is without sin cast the first stone." the fact is, punishments for law are for government, not individuals to punish.

LarissaAnn Wrote:Thank you, but I can't help but think don't most if not all Christians do that though?

christians believe a very wide veriety of things. they disagree on many fundamental beliefs. this is why there are so many denominations of christianity. many of them are wrong as they interpret the scriptures wrong. i try to look into the bible to find what it really means. many of the disagreements could be a result of the different inaccurate translations of the bible so it's good to look into the original hebrew text and greek for new testiment.

LarissaAnn Wrote:Follow God's laws to avoid his wrath...which walks hand in hand with instead getting his approval regardless of the command? Wasn't Abraham ready to kill his own son just to appease God (even though God was being a jackass and just messing with him)...was that something Abraham really wanted to do with all his heart, kill his own son, or was he doing so to gain God's approval?

you don't follow God's laws to avoid his rath. Jesus actually tried to say that you cannot follow the law to the letter so you should not make that your ultimate goal. your ultimate goal should to try to build a personal relationship with God and as you do that obeying the law will naturally follow. Jesus said the greatest commandment is "love the lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength." the second, "love your neighbor as yourself."
the story of Abraham and Isaac- this was a test of Abraham's faith. God told him to sacrifice his only son to him. the fact that he was willing to do it means he was faithful to God. God did not want him to sacrifice his son which is why he sent an angel to stop him. he was rewarded for his faithfulness. God will put us through bad times as a test of our faith, but he will never give us more than we can handle. he will always reward us for our obedience. another reason why Abraham was willing to do this is b/c God is the one who blessed him with that son (and much more sons later) so everything God gives us he can rightfully take away. and the whole way up the mountain he was hoping God would provide a ram instead which is what happened in the end.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

-4th verse of the american national anthem
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Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - December 30, 2011 at 10:54 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 11:40 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - January 1, 2012 at 5:50 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Jackalope - January 1, 2012 at 5:53 am
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - January 22, 2012 at 7:37 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Norfolk And Chance - December 30, 2011 at 11:58 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - January 1, 2012 at 5:55 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - January 6, 2012 at 11:30 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 12:17 pm
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - December 30, 2011 at 2:46 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by kılıç_mehmet - December 30, 2011 at 5:40 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Aegrus - December 30, 2011 at 6:21 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - January 1, 2012 at 6:25 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Norfolk And Chance - December 30, 2011 at 2:33 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Norfolk And Chance - December 30, 2011 at 2:49 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - December 30, 2011 at 2:54 pm
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - December 30, 2011 at 4:07 pm
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - December 30, 2011 at 4:45 pm
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - December 31, 2011 at 5:32 pm
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 1, 2012 at 5:00 am
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 1, 2012 at 4:28 am
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 2, 2012 at 1:41 am
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