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Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory
(January 2, 2012 at 2:59 pm)chipan Wrote: no it doesn't specifically address this. it does leave government the role for enforcing law though. and there were instances where Jesus said things like "he who is without sin cast the first stone." the fact is, punishments for law are for government, not individuals to punish.

christians believe a very wide veriety of things. they disagree on many fundamental beliefs. this is why there are so many denominations of christianity. many of them are wrong as they interpret the scriptures wrong. i try to look into the bible to find what it really means. many of the disagreements could be a result of the different inaccurate translations of the bible so it's good to look into the original hebrew text and greek for new testiment.


you don't follow God's laws to avoid his rath. God will put us through bad times as a test of our faith, but he will never give us more than we can handle.

So yet again, no proof at all that god has changed his stance and no longer thinks rape victims should have to marry their attackers?

Besides you said:

Quote:Well the laws apply but the punishments were for that government at the time....the punishment can be changed b/d women are less dependent on men now....

Again your biblical source that says this opinion is God's will?

So many Christians can't agree on the definitive meanings of the bible because it's for a culture who lived 2000 years ago and irrelevant for our society today, also because there are so many contradictory messages in it.

Quote:This was a test of Abraham's faith
And did Abraham really WANT to kill his son? Or was he about to kill his son just to avoid God's wrath if he didn't? What if Abraham had said, "No I won't kill my son"

According to James 1:13 God doesn't tempt people....and even if he does "test" people, he is sure one insecure dude isn't he? Not almighty, all powerful, all glory, but insecure.
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Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - December 30, 2011 at 10:54 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 11:40 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - January 1, 2012 at 5:50 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Jackalope - January 1, 2012 at 5:53 am
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - January 22, 2012 at 7:37 pm
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - January 1, 2012 at 5:55 am
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 12:17 pm
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