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Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory
(January 3, 2012 at 9:58 am)chipan Wrote: you don't seam to understand. i said punishment if for government to enforce. that government and culture was very different from ours, therefore, laws and punishments of our government are very different from theirs. it's the culture and government that changed, not the commandments.

i actually said he didn't want to kill his son. did you read this? very last thing i wronte on that post.

chipan Wrote:and the whole way up the mountain he was hoping God would provide a ram instead which is what happened in the end.

your right, God does not tempt people. he sometimes will lead us into temptation, but it's only to make us stronger. you think it's insecure but he has a good reason for it. the more we are tempted and resist, the stronger our faith becomes. if someone is sheltered their whole life and all the sudden get exposed to the real world then they will fall apart. they won't know what to do. what God does is similar to giving a vaccine. though it will get you a little sick, in the end it will make you stronger.


Again I am asking for your evidence that God has changed his stance on rape victims having to marry their rapists, nothing more, nothing less. You've given attempt after attempt but giving no solid straightforward answer. It's either he still thinks as he did...which according to the bible he must since he never changes and never makes mistakes....or he has contradicted his own word and was mistaken, which is it?

He didn't want to kill his son....therefore that can only mean he was going to do so to avoid pissing God off, hence doing something only for the reward or lack of punishment which kind of walk hand in hand, not with the sole purpose of doing glory to God out of the desire in his heart to do so. YOU yourself said, if you do something just for the reward or avoiding wrath that you don't get God's reward....contradiction right there and that makes Abraham not a good follower, by your previous stance he should have grabbed the knife with glee and said "Time to go Junior!"

LOL I'm not even going to touch the God vaccine, your statement about God "leading into temptation" is no different from a girlfriend asking her boyfriend "Does this make me look fat?" just to verify by manipulation that her boyfriend finds her beautiful. It's a pathetic move.
(January 3, 2012 at 9:41 am)Epimethean Wrote: You are debating with one of those blind fools who plays biblical buttons, Larissa. Sometimes, he pushes the "interpretation" button; other times, the "literal take" button; still others, he pushes the "overarching meaning" button; and, when things get very grim, he pushes the "OT/NT separation" button while pulling the "you wouldn't understand because god is incomprehensible" lever.

Yes, chipan, I have read it, and taken two years of study of it in uni. It is a conflicted, confounded, corrupted text.

Hehehe yes I am very much starting to see that. I find it hilarious all the veering off topic attempted answers he's given to my one question: Does God still think rape victims should have to marry their rapists?

Shouldn't he have a definitive answer to that he could have given from the moment I asked it? Shouldn't a religion have answers to such a question? Shouldn't God have clarified that by now? OTHERWISE that makes it an unorganized, confusing, mess...which Christianity is.
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~*~Live a good life. If there are Gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are Gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no Gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones - Marcus Aurelius~*~
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Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - December 30, 2011 at 10:54 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 11:40 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - January 1, 2012 at 5:50 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Jackalope - January 1, 2012 at 5:53 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - January 1, 2012 at 6:20 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Jackalope - January 1, 2012 at 6:24 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - January 22, 2012 at 7:37 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Norfolk And Chance - December 30, 2011 at 11:58 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - January 1, 2012 at 5:55 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - January 6, 2012 at 11:30 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 12:17 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Aegrus - December 30, 2011 at 2:07 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - December 30, 2011 at 2:11 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - December 30, 2011 at 2:46 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by kılıç_mehmet - December 30, 2011 at 5:40 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Aegrus - December 30, 2011 at 6:21 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Barre - January 1, 2012 at 6:25 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Norfolk And Chance - December 30, 2011 at 2:33 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Norfolk And Chance - December 30, 2011 at 2:49 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - December 30, 2011 at 2:54 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Epimethean - December 30, 2011 at 3:58 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - December 30, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Epimethean - December 30, 2011 at 4:14 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - December 30, 2011 at 4:45 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Epimethean - December 30, 2011 at 5:15 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - December 30, 2011 at 5:20 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by kılıç_mehmet - December 30, 2011 at 6:49 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - December 30, 2011 at 7:20 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by kılıç_mehmet - December 30, 2011 at 8:03 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - December 31, 2011 at 3:37 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Aegrus - December 30, 2011 at 10:11 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - December 30, 2011 at 11:08 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - December 31, 2011 at 1:03 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Cyberman - December 31, 2011 at 1:52 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Norfolk And Chance - December 31, 2011 at 10:15 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Jackalope - December 31, 2011 at 5:20 pm
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - December 31, 2011 at 3:13 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by kılıç_mehmet - December 31, 2011 at 6:00 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - December 31, 2011 at 5:32 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 1, 2012 at 2:32 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 1, 2012 at 5:00 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Jackalope - January 1, 2012 at 2:50 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 1, 2012 at 4:28 am
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 1, 2012 at 4:44 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Jackalope - January 1, 2012 at 4:52 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 1, 2012 at 4:57 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Jackalope - January 1, 2012 at 5:03 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 1, 2012 at 5:21 am
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 1, 2012 at 5:38 am
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 1, 2012 at 5:31 am
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 1, 2012 at 6:01 am
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 1, 2012 at 6:38 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 1, 2012 at 6:51 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Jackalope - January 1, 2012 at 7:12 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by 5thHorseman - January 1, 2012 at 7:01 am
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Cyberman - January 1, 2012 at 6:47 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Jackalope - January 1, 2012 at 8:49 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 2, 2012 at 12:06 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Jackalope - January 2, 2012 at 1:10 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 2, 2012 at 1:41 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 2, 2012 at 1:15 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Jackalope - January 2, 2012 at 2:44 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 2, 2012 at 2:28 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 2, 2012 at 3:13 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 2, 2012 at 4:47 am
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 2, 2012 at 1:20 pm
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 2, 2012 at 5:11 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Epimethean - January 2, 2012 at 10:40 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 2, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Epimethean - January 2, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 2, 2012 at 12:21 pm
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 2, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 2, 2012 at 2:10 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 2, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 2, 2012 at 8:14 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Epimethean - January 3, 2012 at 9:41 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 3, 2012 at 9:58 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 3, 2012 at 11:16 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Shell B - January 3, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 3, 2012 at 4:10 pm
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 4, 2012 at 11:56 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 5, 2012 at 9:22 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 5, 2012 at 10:14 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by KichigaiNeko - January 5, 2012 at 9:25 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 5, 2012 at 9:39 am
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 5, 2012 at 10:27 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by KichigaiNeko - January 5, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 5, 2012 at 10:34 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by KichigaiNeko - January 5, 2012 at 10:39 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 5, 2012 at 10:42 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 5, 2012 at 10:52 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by chi pan - January 5, 2012 at 11:00 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 5, 2012 at 11:01 am
RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Shell B - January 6, 2012 at 9:20 pm
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by LarissaAnn - January 5, 2012 at 12:04 pm
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RE: Primordial Sex--Eden as Allegory - by Shell B - January 6, 2012 at 9:36 pm
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