(March 3, 2026 at 10:52 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: GrandNudger:
Quote:“The Original Meaning™ of these texts is even more barbaric and shitty than the modern interpretations you still see as broken. What you're doing here is creating a fantasy of a past religion to vouch for your current religious beliefs, while calling the people who hold to those religious beliefs you would discard -for religious reasons- literal untermensch as an explanation for why they hold them. Their fucking energy levels are low, lol. Are you selling spirituality or testosterone supplements here? Think about it.”
- Yes, this is also true. Many atheists are reading religious scriptures more than most of us do. The Bible and the Quran are full of violent stories, bitterness, scary declaration and some humbo-Jumbo stories that are annoying at best and deeply disturbing in other cases.
Think of the parts of the new-testament about the end of days. It is 10 time’s worse than the “IT” movie (1990) + adults seemed to enjoy themselves telling us such scary stories about things like the antichrist and the things they would do to us once we land in hell in the afterlife.
So some people are accepting these approaches. Which is why they will attempt to “help” people like you or me and they will do this believing that this is for our own good.
But we have already talked a lot about these issues. The more mystical / spiritual approach to religious teachings is actually the opposite of believing in such limiting and quite frankly harmful belief systems. I would never teach little children that there is a cosmic persona somewhere beyond the known universe and that this cosmic persona (together with his enemy the devil) are there to hurt them at the first mistake they make.
To me, something like fasting in the Ramadan, is not an obligation in which you get carrots for doing it and lashes for not doing it because the old pervert above is looking. – No. It’s a method, or a technique that can help you in self-mastery and contribute to your health by reducing the load of your digestive system every once in a while.
"Woo."
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