(January 8, 2012 at 2:25 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I did not say it was not natural.
Heterosexuality is equally natural. So now any argument you make can be used against heterosexuals.
Quote:Besides, I'm already over it.
Obviously not.
Quote:My opinions on the matter are as fixed as yours.
If someone can present evidence, unbiased by religious doctrine, that homosexuality is a harmful, immoral choice that threatens the well being of animal life on the planet earth, I would have no choice but to reexamine my opinion. It would have to be more overwhelming than the evidence that it's not.
Quote:I do not consider homosexuals to be fit to be a part of normal society(although I know that you people do detest words such as "normal" and concepts such as social norms), and think that they should keep to themselves, and stay out of public eyes.
Since you admitted that it's natural, I have to counter this position by saying that heterosexuals are not fit to be a part of normal society. Since sexual preference is not a choice, by your own admission, it must not be normal, and therefore heterosexuals should keep to themselves and stay out of the public eye.
Quote:What if they love, say, their own daughters?
If by "love" you mean "sexually abuse", or "rape", then you're not talking about love at all. You're talking about a mental illness, that doesn't have anything to do with healthy heterosexuals or homosexuals.
Quote:The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/ht...ation.html
Quote:It's obviously a very extreme example, but you cannot tolerate everyone, nor everything.
It's an irrelevant example. Sexual abuse should not be tolerated because it's harmful and sick.
Quote:And you are sure that it's only a little aspect of that person's entire being?
Is your heterosexuality just a little aspect of your entire being? Or does your own sexual orientation define who you are completely?
Get the fuck out of town, dude! Fuck yes, I'm sure.
Quote:If so, why do we really discuss this? It's obviously an aspect which puts the person at odds with society.
We discuss it to educate people who don't understand. We discuss it because it's an issue, even though it shouldn't be. Why does it put people at odds with society? Who are the ones with the real problem? The people who were born gay, or the people who have hang-ups about it?
Quote:It's not small.
Said Pastor Haggard to Mike Jones.
Quote:I only accept homosexuals because it's..As you said, not really dependant on the person. They can't help it but to be that way.
Right, and you can't help but be heterosexual, so that's why people accept you too.
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