RE: Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
January 10, 2012 at 11:33 pm
(This post was last modified: January 10, 2012 at 11:37 pm by Godscreated.)
@ Aegrus -Yes I have read and studied the NT and OT, each is extremely important to the other, one is not understandable without the other.
Most people even some christians mistake what freewill is. Freewill does not mean you can do just what you desire when ever you want to. The freewill that God has given us is this, you have a choice to accept him or reject him. After your choice, your life will reflect your choice and God could use you to complete his will for his creation. Yes, God will use those who do not believe as well as those who do believe. As a christian I do,that is most of the time, have a choice, though a wrong decision may and probably will result in punishment in some manner. A nonbeliever on the other hand really has no choice, this makes sense because as a nonbeliever one would not know God was working through one's life.
God has always had a plan, he is omniscient and knows what was to transpire in the future. He knew Adam would blow it and he would need to redeem his creation yet, he would have to do it giving man freewill to accept him, it could be done no other way and still be done through love. God set his plan into motion the instant he began to create. He knew it would cost his Son yet, God still went through with his plan. God did not have to allow his Son to suffer and die, he could have wiped out the whole creation and left things the way they were before creation. He loved us so much that he did not wipe us out, he chose to redeem those who would love him instead. He knew that this would lead to great suffering in the world but, God was not giving up on those that would choose to love him. To answer an up coming question, God could have started over but he knew that Lucifer and Adam or whoever would make the same decisions, yep starting over would have changed nothing.
Hope this answers your questions. Also point out those negatives you see in the story of Adam and Eve.
Most people even some christians mistake what freewill is. Freewill does not mean you can do just what you desire when ever you want to. The freewill that God has given us is this, you have a choice to accept him or reject him. After your choice, your life will reflect your choice and God could use you to complete his will for his creation. Yes, God will use those who do not believe as well as those who do believe. As a christian I do,that is most of the time, have a choice, though a wrong decision may and probably will result in punishment in some manner. A nonbeliever on the other hand really has no choice, this makes sense because as a nonbeliever one would not know God was working through one's life.
God has always had a plan, he is omniscient and knows what was to transpire in the future. He knew Adam would blow it and he would need to redeem his creation yet, he would have to do it giving man freewill to accept him, it could be done no other way and still be done through love. God set his plan into motion the instant he began to create. He knew it would cost his Son yet, God still went through with his plan. God did not have to allow his Son to suffer and die, he could have wiped out the whole creation and left things the way they were before creation. He loved us so much that he did not wipe us out, he chose to redeem those who would love him instead. He knew that this would lead to great suffering in the world but, God was not giving up on those that would choose to love him. To answer an up coming question, God could have started over but he knew that Lucifer and Adam or whoever would make the same decisions, yep starting over would have changed nothing.
Hope this answers your questions. Also point out those negatives you see in the story of Adam and Eve.
(January 10, 2012 at 10:38 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote:(January 10, 2012 at 8:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: You do not have to accept anything you do not want to, that's what freewill is all about, please try and show you are better than trying to twist others words around. Do not be like some of these young ones that only can argue a point by twisting words around.
What he is trying to tell you is that there ARE strings attached to it, and no amount of sugar coating will not change the fact that you either worship God or burn in hell for all eternity.
That is NOT freewill.
..and the only one twisting words around here is you.
Im also not "one of those young ones"...Im 39.
Quote:Adam and Eve disobeyed God it is as simple as that, God never through a fit. If you had the ability to understand a story of love and caring you would be able to understand the story of Adam and Eve. Since you do not understand the story that says what about you.
I know what this post of yours says about you....since you are the one making character attacks...
If you think the book of genesis is about "love", then I dare not think what you consider to be hateful.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
