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People Behave Socially and 'Well' Even Without Rules
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RE: People Behave Socially and 'Well' Even Without Rules
(January 23, 2012 at 8:01 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote:
Quote:Then anarchy is:

A) unable to defend itself against malicious state actors and
B) useless for dealing with larger-than-individual actors
"actors" huh... Like I said before, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure this out. When the workers rise up and form an anarchy, they are giving a very clear message to every single government in the world that "we do not need your politicians, your kings, your religious leaders, your wealthy land owners, your bosses, or your monetary system"

And through what powers of communication will the much vaunted workers of the world use to synchronize together and act? Telepathy?

And how do you know that any action would ever be taken with the entire blithering hivemind? Governments are already aimless and inefficient while still being composed of a selected few -- I don't see anything endemic to your scenario that solves or sidesteps that problem.
(January 23, 2012 at 8:01 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Which makes every single government in the world its instant enemy. Of course those governments do NOT want to make friendly relationships with an anarcho-community. They will do their utmost to knock them down in a concerted effort so they can say "see, you need rich and poor and politician and king and greedy land owners in order to survive."

That's right, and if anything bad ever happens, it's the government's fault for colluding behind your back to make you fail.

Yep, paranoia check.

(January 23, 2012 at 8:01 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: So the spanish revolution wasnt "real world examples" because they "are buried under soviet tanks"?
If you are going to move the goal posts back further and further..you might as well just tell me that I am unable to score in this discussion.

It's not fucking moving goal posts if the example you refer to lasted such a piteously short time that making real comparative analysis of government structures to it to be erroneous and insignificant.

Why don't you put forth a real functioning and competitive society, anywhere, that is not squashed simply into oblivion and never appears again? If this is such a wonderful system, then people would attempt again and again at it, right?

Freetown Christiania might be an example (not a very good one I'm afraid) to use. We could take a gander at that...

I'd let a thousand flowers bloom, if you could point to some actual flowers under the revolutionary bullshit.
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RE: People Behave Socially and 'Well' Even Without Rules - by Autumnlicious - January 24, 2012 at 4:03 pm

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