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People Behave Socially and 'Well' Even Without Rules
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RE: People Behave Socially and 'Well' Even Without Rules
Quote:The cow video shows a bunch of people living an alternative lifestyle and making that look pretty good. It certainly doesn't look like a viable political entity to me.
And you are absolutely correct other than the "alternative" remark. It is merely a life style. An YES, anarchy is the ABSENCE of a state...I dont think I can say this enough as many people replying on this topic cant seem to grasp the concept that anarchy is stateless. ANARCHY HAS NO STATE. And just like any other governing model, it can be the size of a small neighborhood up to and including the entire universe.

If you are expecting to see an "official" anarchy state, you will not see it. You may as well ask me to show you a cup of dry water.

Quote:It isn't the sort of thing that can replace a national or state government.
And you are 100% correct. Anarchy isnt something that "replaces" a national or state government. It is the ABSENCE of nationality, state, and government.

Quote:But it is a lifestyle which could exist within a larger political unit.
Wrong... your inability to see beyond a political system does not mean that it cannot be successful. You may as well suggest that god exists because you dont understand why the tide rolls in and the tide rolls out. It can exist within and without an other official state.

Quote:I'm sure they don't live apart from the laws of the political entity of which they are a part and I'm sure they are subject to them.
I have only quoted like a hundred times that anarchy is opposed by every political system around it. their neighbors will do what it takes to force the commune to follow their rules. If stalinists lived on one side of this commune, and capitalists on the other, then BOTH would be constantly trying to get rid of the commune, or force it to comply with THEIR particular state government or suffer the consequences.

Quote:Surely you don't suggest this living arrangement is scalable to the extent that would allow it to survive independently amongst political entities of other persuasions?
Surely you are not suggesting that any OTHER government model could exist on such a large scale either, do you? How long do you think capitalists and non capitalists can survive living side by side in peace? nope, all it does is bring about even more warfare.

How can democracy exist when it reaches a large percentage of population? How can people honestly say that a single elected congressman represents MILLIONS of people. They cant, and it DOESNT work. They only fool you into thinking otherwise. At least in a cooperative commune everyone has a say so in their local community. That is why anarchy is DECENTRALIZED...do some homework and you will understand.

I still dont know what the pic means either.

Apparently to moros, I have to show him something larger than he expects. Of course he never have me any properties to use in my search. I could show him the hundred of spontaneous communities that popped up in russia, many of them of extremely large sizes, but he would merely find some other way to push the goal post back even more.
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RE: People Behave Socially and 'Well' Even Without Rules - by reverendjeremiah - January 25, 2012 at 11:53 am

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