Jaysus effin' Christ!! Santorum on abortion due to rape

[Erinome]

Tiberius would do well to remember that someone without a uterus can fuck off with their pro-life opinions on this matter, no matter how moralistic their reasons.

Whoops. I'm going to disagree and piss people off. I'm pro-life. Yeah, pro-life in that way that I think people have a right to life. Do I think people should be forced to carry to term? No. However, I do not think that all instances of abortion are that black and white. A man should have some say in it, assuming he came about his fatherhood in a legal, non-violent way. Hey, if the girl wants an abortion and the father is willing to let her sign over parental rights and raise the kid, maybe there should be a discussion. At any rate, the bottom line is that everyone has a right to an opinion. While I do not disagree with abortion, it has to be said that some other opinions actually have very sound reasoning backing them up. A father has a sentimental right to his offspring, same as a mother. A fetus may just be a fetus to me or you, but it is really viewed as a human by others. I would feel pretty uncomfortable about it too if I did not understand the basic mechanics of fetal development. Anyway, I have never seen Adrian write anything that is the type of "Pro-life" that we all so hate. I believe his position lies in father's rights, which I think are greatly ignored.

Too bad they can't transfer the fetus into the man. Ever carried a baby to term?

Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:

exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
heartburn and indigestion
constipation
weight gain
dizziness and light-headedness
bloating, swelling, fluid retention
hemmorhoids
abdominal cramps
yeast infections
congested, bloody nose
acne and mild skin disorders
skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
mild to severe backache and strain
increased headaches
difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
increased urination and incontinence
bleeding gums
pica
breast pain and discharge
swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint pain
difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
inability to take regular medications
shortness of breath
higher blood pressure
hair loss
tendency to anemia
curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities
infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
(pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
extreme pain on delivery
hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)

Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:

stretch marks (worse in younger women)
loose skin
permanent weight gain or redistribution
abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life)
changes to breasts
varicose veins
scarring from episiotomy or c-section
other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
Occasional complications and side effects:

spousal/partner abuse
hyperemesis gravidarum
temporary and permanent injury to back
severe scarring requiring later surgery (especially after additional pregnancies)
dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
gestational diabetes
placenta previa
anemia (which can be life-threatening)
thrombocytopenic purpura
severe cramping
embolism (blood clots)
medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
hormonal imbalance
ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
hemorrhage and
numerous other complications of delivery
refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
severe post-partum depression and psychosis
research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease
Less common (but serious) complications:

peripartum cardiomyopathy
cardiopulmonary arrest
magnesium toxicity
severe hypoxemia/acidosis
massive embolism
increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
malignant arrhythmia
circulatory collapse
placental abruption
obstetric fistula

More permanent side effects:
future infertility
permanent disability
death.

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If a man wants his baby, he needs to find a willing host for his fetus. Most of the girls having elective abortions are quite young. The fathers of these children vary in age, but I rarely see a woman over 25. These girls are victims of a society that refuses to responsibly educate them about safe-sex practices. From the really young ones (13-18) I often hear things like, "I didn't know.." or my favorite, "I didn't know it could happen on my first time."

No you want them to be victims of these happy-hard on putzes who decide they want the fruits of a woman's womb, for whatever reason? The boy who impregnated the girl might want the child, but he doesn't have to have his body invaded so intensely for 40 weeks of his life, and then give birth to a baby that he doesn't want, that he isn't ready to love. He gets to sit there and wait. Scratch his balls, drink his beer, keep his dignity, remain in control of his bowels. The mother bears all the burden, and that's fair to you? As a woman... really?

Some men do see abortions as murdering a human life. Those men should refrain from sticking their unprotected dick into women who aren't ready for a baby, and the government of every state, and the federal government should stop funding public schools who are unwilling to make birth control a topic of health class/readily available through the school nurse.

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It also takes two to conceive and both potentially lose in an abortion.

Except when sperm banks are involved.

I wonder if a woman ever went to a sperm bank to get knocked up, then decided later to have an abortion?


LOL

As nutty as it sounds, Im sure it has probably happened in America at least once.

I've witnessed it twice.