RE: Simple mental exercise to show the irrationality of the Christian God.
January 30, 2012 at 3:00 am
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2012 at 3:02 am by believer913.)
(January 24, 2012 at 10:54 pm)ThomM Wrote: Gods are imaginary
THE story CANNOT be true - it has an obvious flaw - the claim of Omniscience - that prevents the rest from being true
IF a god KNEW everything -then ONLY ONE OUTCOME could be possible in ALL instances - only what the god knew.
Obviously - YOU would be UNABLE to choose to do something the god DID NOT KNOW - so YOU are left - and the god is left - without ANY OPTIONS that could actually be chosen.
If a god cannot choose - it is NOT almighty.
However - the basis for the morality of religion is in the FREEDOM of choice claimed for the humans. IF we DO NOT HAVE freedom of choice - we have not chosen to do anything - and therefore are not responsible for OUR actions
So - either the claim of being ALmighty is false (AS that is falseall by itself as well) - OR the god is omniscient - and NOT almighty - it cannot be both.
Since there is established a direct IMPOSSIBLE contradiction - the story of the god CANNOT BE TRUEI
Hi, sorry if there's already been debate about this and I'm late, but I didn't want to scroll through the entire thread and get caught up, so I'd just like to give my two cents on the subject
You do bring up a very good point, but this is how I see it. I do believe God is omniscient and almighty at the same time. God sees all possible scenarios and possibilities, and knows the outcome to each and every situation. Before the universe was even created, God knew what would happen, and God chose what would happen. Time is a manmade measurement that God does not abide by, and He is existing in all times, so all of eternity is in his hand. So He is not experiencing things as they happen, everything has already happened, and He determined when and how it would happen.
I hope that made sense! Feel free to reply and let me know what you think, what you disagree with, etc. I really would like to have an intelligent conversaion about this!