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Knowing everything and allowing evil
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RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil
(February 3, 2012 at 12:50 am)Godschild Wrote: Your mistake is believing anyone is good compared to the perfect God. God is omniscient and understands what good is. Evil = sin so to speak, it is those who sin and are not believers in Christ who will spend eternity in hell. Sin = not doing the will of God, I do not know how anyone can possibly be perfect enough to do God's will every day. Forgiveness is the key, forgiveness comes through Christ. Everyone sins, it's those who accept Christ who attain forgiveness, those who do not accept Christ do not receive forgiveness and thus hell is their eternal destination.

There is nothing perfect about the God that is described in the Bible.

The first thing the God does is confess to being a jealous God. He's already imperfect right there. Then he's also a vengeful God. Far from perfect.

Moreover, there would be absolutely nothing "perfect" about a God who can't forgive people unless they are willing to nail his son to a pole.

In fact, do you realize that by accepting Jesus as your "savior" you are indeed condoning having Jesus nailed to a pole to pay for your sins.

In fact, accepting that Jesus was crucified to pay for your sins would be no different from God handing you a hammer and spikes and pointing to Jesus and the Cross and saying, "Unless you are willing to nail my son to a pole to pay for your sins I won't grant you admission into my perfect heaven."

That's basically what these fables require of you.

Besides, what would be the point in an eternal hell of suffering that no one could ever escape from or be pardoned from?

Clearly it's not going to do any good for the people who are suffering. They most certainly aren't being taught a "lesson" because its eternal. What's the point in an eternal lesson that never ends? It would be utterly pointless.

Therefor the only other possible reason that this God could have devised such a wicked scheme is because he actually enjoys knowing that people are suffering eternally. Otherwise why bother doing it at all?

If it doesn't do the people who are suffering any good, and it serves God no useful purpose then what would be the point to it?

It's clearly a man-made fable intended to scare people into obeying a religious scam.

There simply can be no other explanation. No genuinely all-wise (supposedly benevolent) being could possibly have set up such an asinine and utterly useless situation.

There would certainly be nothing "perfect" about such a demonic God.

The very fact that any human being falls for this absurd religious scam is beyond me. We've dismissed the Greek Gods as being nothing more than pure mythology for far lesser reasons.

It's really quite simple. No supposedly "perfect" God could be as screwed up as these religious myths demand.

I don't know about you, but such a God would be far beneath me in terms of compassion and love.

Even if I were to sentence some to eternal punishment and suffering whilst I was in an emotional fit of rage, it wouldn't be very long before I regained my composure and forgave them and withdrew the sentence.

To think that a supposedly "perfect and benevolent" God could sentence people to eternal suffering and punishment (and in some cases for having done nothing more than merely not believing in him) is simply ludicrous.

With all due respect it would be utterly stupid beyond any rationale.

Moreover, think about this,...

The GOOD NEWS that Jesus supposedly brought is that MOST PEOPLE are going to hell!

That's right.

Jesus is said to have taught:

Matt.7

[13] Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
[14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


Well if only few make it into the Kingdom of God, then clearly the vast majority of souls that this God creates are sent to this eternal hell.

This would be a loser God. A God who loses the vast majority of souls that he creates.

In other words he would be an extremely inefficient creator of souls.

That my friend would be far from being "perfect".

Face it. The religion is nothing more than an outrageous scare-tactic scam created and maintained by mortal men.

There's no way it could be about any genuine divine being. It's simply far too ignorant.



Christian - A moron who believes that an all-benevolent God can simultaneously be a hateful jealous male-chauvinistic pig.
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!
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Knowing everything and allowing evil - by MysticKnight - February 3, 2012 at 12:15 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by AthiestAtheist - February 3, 2012 at 12:28 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Minimalist - February 3, 2012 at 2:18 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by KichigaiNeko - February 3, 2012 at 12:30 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 3, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Darwinian - February 3, 2012 at 4:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 3, 2012 at 8:03 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 3, 2012 at 6:19 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 7:04 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 8:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 3, 2012 at 1:46 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 3, 2012 at 6:15 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 3, 2012 at 6:54 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 10:20 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 3, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 3, 2012 at 4:05 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 6:39 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Minimalist - February 3, 2012 at 4:14 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 3, 2012 at 5:43 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 3, 2012 at 6:16 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 3, 2012 at 6:42 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 3, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by RW_9 - February 3, 2012 at 8:08 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 3, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 4, 2012 at 7:44 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 5, 2012 at 3:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 5, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 5, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 5, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 6, 2012 at 3:53 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 6, 2012 at 9:49 am
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RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 6, 2012 at 11:04 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by RW_9 - February 6, 2012 at 1:22 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 11, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 18, 2012 at 7:22 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 18, 2012 at 7:48 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 18, 2012 at 8:11 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 6, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 7, 2012 at 4:51 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 11, 2012 at 4:05 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 11, 2012 at 6:09 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 10:03 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 12:22 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 11, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 12, 2012 at 3:12 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 12, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 17, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by RW_9 - February 11, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 11, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by RW_9 - February 11, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Violet - February 13, 2012 at 4:07 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by MysticKnight - February 13, 2012 at 3:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 13, 2012 at 8:34 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Violet - February 13, 2012 at 8:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 14, 2012 at 4:50 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by jason56 - February 17, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 17, 2012 at 10:24 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by jason56 - February 17, 2012 at 10:52 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 18, 2012 at 6:48 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Minimalist - February 17, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 18, 2012 at 9:00 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 20, 2012 at 6:52 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 20, 2012 at 7:14 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 20, 2012 at 8:00 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Tiberius - February 20, 2012 at 8:02 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by MarkOfEnglandshire - February 20, 2012 at 5:09 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 21, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Modular Moog V - February 21, 2012 at 1:47 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 21, 2012 at 2:12 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 21, 2012 at 2:30 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 21, 2012 at 3:34 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 21, 2012 at 6:07 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 21, 2012 at 9:54 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by leo-rcc - February 25, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 21, 2012 at 2:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 21, 2012 at 1:52 am
Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 21, 2012 at 12:54 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 21, 2012 at 1:32 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 21, 2012 at 7:47 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 21, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 21, 2012 at 7:45 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 22, 2012 at 4:52 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 8:17 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 22, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 22, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 22, 2012 at 1:52 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 21, 2012 at 11:20 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 22, 2012 at 4:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 4:32 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 11:11 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 22, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 22, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 2:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 22, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 22, 2012 at 2:38 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - February 23, 2012 at 4:31 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 23, 2012 at 4:56 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 2:22 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - February 24, 2012 at 9:46 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 24, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 24, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 25, 2012 at 1:43 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 25, 2012 at 2:29 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 5, 2012 at 10:21 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 5, 2012 at 11:34 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by LastPoet - March 5, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 6, 2012 at 3:25 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 6, 2012 at 5:33 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 6, 2012 at 8:22 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 23, 2012 at 3:51 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 23, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 8:42 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 24, 2012 at 6:26 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 24, 2012 at 3:10 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by NoMoreFaith - February 23, 2012 at 8:48 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 23, 2012 at 9:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 10:21 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 23, 2012 at 10:46 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by KichigaiNeko - February 23, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 24, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 24, 2012 at 12:52 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 24, 2012 at 3:10 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 24, 2012 at 4:32 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by marx_2012 - February 24, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - February 24, 2012 at 10:41 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 25, 2012 at 2:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 25, 2012 at 3:14 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 25, 2012 at 3:43 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 25, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by MysticKnight - February 25, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 25, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - February 25, 2012 at 3:42 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - February 25, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 26, 2012 at 2:14 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 4:44 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 26, 2012 at 6:40 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 7:48 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 26, 2012 at 8:47 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 10:16 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 26, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - February 26, 2012 at 10:36 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 26, 2012 at 10:45 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 11:23 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 11:36 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 11:39 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 11:53 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 11:57 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 12:09 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2012 at 12:18 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 12:57 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 27, 2012 at 4:06 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 11:31 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 10:57 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2012 at 11:10 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 27, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 7:03 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 28, 2012 at 7:12 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 28, 2012 at 12:12 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2012 at 10:44 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 28, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - March 1, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Knowing everything and allowing evil - by KichigaiNeko - March 2, 2012 at 6:36 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 6, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 6, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 6, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 9, 2012 at 2:35 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 10, 2012 at 3:39 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 12, 2012 at 9:00 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 6, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - March 6, 2012 at 9:55 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by black36 - March 10, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by black36 - March 10, 2012 at 12:56 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - March 10, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 12, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - March 13, 2012 at 1:37 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 13, 2012 at 3:34 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Some guy - March 13, 2012 at 3:48 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - March 14, 2012 at 3:08 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Some guy - March 14, 2012 at 3:52 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 14, 2012 at 5:34 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - March 14, 2012 at 4:50 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Some guy - March 14, 2012 at 2:35 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by NoMoreFaith - March 14, 2012 at 2:39 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 14, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by average - March 16, 2012 at 10:22 am

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