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Knowing everything and allowing evil
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RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil
(February 6, 2012 at 9:51 am)Rhythm Wrote: @Tack "Vanilla is necessary for the definition of chocolate"...sigh. What's the opposite of watermelon, since we can't define anything except by it's opposite? Or is this a special case? I don't think that "fact" is a fact at all........

@Chip, roger, roger, credit for the good, washes hands on the bad. Either your description of god is flawed, or your god is a tool......take your pick?

We can define things without their opposite. You can define what is evil to you and I can define what is evil to me, but from an objective perspective we can't come to an absolute definition. As RW eluded to, I'm a theist and my ethical system for subjective moraliy is something probably quite similar to yours. That helps me define my subjective morality. We can probably even come to a concensus one level up from that with societal morality. Seeing as you don't believe (I assume) in an objective morality though that's as far as we can go down the same road. I further define good and evil by my theology and use that to better my subjective definitions of what's good and evil. As our protestant friend chipan pointed out, the typical American theist defines God as good and everything not of God evil. I'm sure you've heard the references to God or Jesus being the light of the world. In context here the analogy would be God is light and evil would be the absence of light. You can't make things more evil or more dark, you can only take away more light. A Christian objective, generally, would then be to reflect as much of God's light as possible. That would make evil the absense of God and thus opposites. I hope that made sense.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

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Knowing everything and allowing evil - by MysticKnight - February 3, 2012 at 12:15 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by AthiestAtheist - February 3, 2012 at 12:28 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Minimalist - February 3, 2012 at 2:18 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by KichigaiNeko - February 3, 2012 at 12:30 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 3, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Darwinian - February 3, 2012 at 4:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 3, 2012 at 8:03 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 3, 2012 at 6:19 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 7:04 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 8:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 3, 2012 at 1:46 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 3, 2012 at 6:15 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 3, 2012 at 6:54 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 10:20 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 3, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 3, 2012 at 4:05 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 6:39 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Minimalist - February 3, 2012 at 4:14 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 3, 2012 at 5:43 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 3, 2012 at 6:16 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 3, 2012 at 6:42 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 3, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 3, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by RW_9 - February 3, 2012 at 8:08 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 3, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 4, 2012 at 7:44 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 5, 2012 at 3:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 5, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 5, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 5, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 6, 2012 at 3:53 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 6, 2012 at 9:49 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 6, 2012 at 10:00 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 6, 2012 at 11:04 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by RW_9 - February 6, 2012 at 1:22 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 11, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 18, 2012 at 7:22 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 18, 2012 at 7:48 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 18, 2012 at 8:11 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Welsh cake - February 6, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 7, 2012 at 4:51 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 11, 2012 at 4:05 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 11, 2012 at 6:09 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 10:03 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 11, 2012 at 12:22 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 11, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 12, 2012 at 3:12 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 12, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 17, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by RW_9 - February 11, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 11, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by RW_9 - February 11, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Violet - February 13, 2012 at 4:07 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by MysticKnight - February 13, 2012 at 3:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 13, 2012 at 8:34 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Violet - February 13, 2012 at 8:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 14, 2012 at 4:50 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by jason56 - February 17, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 17, 2012 at 10:24 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by jason56 - February 17, 2012 at 10:52 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 18, 2012 at 6:48 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Minimalist - February 17, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 18, 2012 at 9:00 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 20, 2012 at 6:52 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 20, 2012 at 7:14 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 20, 2012 at 8:00 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Tiberius - February 20, 2012 at 8:02 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by MarkOfEnglandshire - February 20, 2012 at 5:09 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 21, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Modular Moog V - February 21, 2012 at 1:47 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Godschild - February 21, 2012 at 2:12 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 21, 2012 at 2:30 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 21, 2012 at 3:34 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 21, 2012 at 6:07 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 21, 2012 at 9:54 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by leo-rcc - February 25, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 21, 2012 at 2:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 21, 2012 at 1:52 am
Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Zen Badger - February 21, 2012 at 12:54 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 21, 2012 at 1:32 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 21, 2012 at 7:47 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 21, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 21, 2012 at 7:45 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 22, 2012 at 4:52 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 8:17 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 22, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 22, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Ace Otana - February 22, 2012 at 1:52 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 21, 2012 at 11:20 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 22, 2012 at 4:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 4:32 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 11:11 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 22, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 22, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 2:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 22, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 22, 2012 at 2:38 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 22, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - February 23, 2012 at 4:31 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 23, 2012 at 4:56 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 2:22 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - February 24, 2012 at 9:46 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 24, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 24, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 25, 2012 at 1:43 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 25, 2012 at 2:29 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 5, 2012 at 10:21 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 5, 2012 at 11:34 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by LastPoet - March 5, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 6, 2012 at 3:25 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 6, 2012 at 5:33 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 6, 2012 at 8:22 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 23, 2012 at 3:51 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 23, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 8:42 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 24, 2012 at 6:26 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 24, 2012 at 3:10 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by NoMoreFaith - February 23, 2012 at 8:48 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 23, 2012 at 9:29 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 10:21 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 23, 2012 at 10:46 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 23, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by KichigaiNeko - February 23, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 24, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 24, 2012 at 12:52 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 24, 2012 at 3:10 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 24, 2012 at 4:32 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by marx_2012 - February 24, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - February 24, 2012 at 10:41 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - February 25, 2012 at 2:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 25, 2012 at 3:14 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 25, 2012 at 3:43 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 25, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by MysticKnight - February 25, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 25, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - February 25, 2012 at 3:42 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - February 25, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Bgood - February 26, 2012 at 2:14 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 4:44 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 26, 2012 at 6:40 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 7:48 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 26, 2012 at 8:47 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 10:16 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 26, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - February 26, 2012 at 10:36 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 26, 2012 at 10:45 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 11:23 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 11:36 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 11:39 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 26, 2012 at 11:53 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 11:57 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 12:09 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2012 at 12:18 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 12:57 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 27, 2012 at 4:06 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 11:31 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 10:57 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2012 at 11:10 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by padraic - February 27, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 7:03 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 27, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - February 28, 2012 at 7:12 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 28, 2012 at 12:12 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by The Grand Nudger - February 27, 2012 at 10:44 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Abracadabra - February 28, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - March 1, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Knowing everything and allowing evil - by KichigaiNeko - March 2, 2012 at 6:36 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 6, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 6, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 6, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 9, 2012 at 2:35 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 10, 2012 at 3:39 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 12, 2012 at 9:00 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 6, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - March 6, 2012 at 9:55 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by black36 - March 10, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by black36 - March 10, 2012 at 12:56 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Cyberman - March 10, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by chi pan - March 12, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - March 13, 2012 at 1:37 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 13, 2012 at 3:34 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Some guy - March 13, 2012 at 3:48 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - March 14, 2012 at 3:08 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Some guy - March 14, 2012 at 3:52 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 14, 2012 at 5:34 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by tackattack - March 14, 2012 at 4:50 am
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by Some guy - March 14, 2012 at 2:35 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by NoMoreFaith - March 14, 2012 at 2:39 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by genkaus - March 14, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Knowing everything and allowing evil - by average - March 16, 2012 at 10:22 am

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