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How can Christians not admit Christianity is all a pile of garbage when ...?
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RE: How can Christians not admit Christianity is all a pile of garbage when ...?
(February 12, 2012 at 3:43 am)chipan Wrote: and tell me, what facts are there to prove athiestic cosmology? what tests? i don't want to hear dating methods unless you have some evidence of them proving 100% that they have accurately dated something they already knew the date of that was over 2000 years old. if not, it's not a proven test.

The scientific knowledge of cosmology has absolutely nothing at all to do with atheism. Other than the fact that it doesn't support the myths of the ancient Hebrews that have been collected into a cannon and labeled "the bible".

The is no question that the universe is very close to 13.7 billion years old and the earth is very close to 4.5 billion years old. Those are as factual as anything we know to be factual.

It is also a fact beyond question that life evolved on planet Earth from very simply lifeforms into more complex lifeforms over billions of years.

In other words, the evolution of life on Earth is known to be true without a doubt. The fact that dinosaurs lived for about 300 million years alone is a well-understood fact.

If you require that all of this scientific knowledge of the universe needs to be wrong in order for Hebrew mythology to be true, then you are truly wasting your time pursuing this religion. In that respect Hebrew Mythology has been proven to be as false as Greek Mythology. There are no Gods on Mt. Olympus and the Earth was not created in 6 days, nor is it only a mere 6000 years old. So you can dismiss Greek Mythology and Hebrew Mythology with equal confidence.

Besides, what is your motivation for wishing that it could be true?

The story proclaims that we are at odds with our creator and that he is threatening to be exceedingly cruel to us if we don't do something to repair the situation.

Moreover, the story is demanding that you have personally chosen to reject God, and that this is precisely why you are in dire need of repentance.

Is that true? Did you personally choose to reject God at any point in your life? Is this why you feel that you must make amends?

That was one of the things I asked myself. Have I willfully and knowingly rejecting God?

The answer was simply. No, not only have I not willfully rejected God, but just the opposite is true. I was deeply sincere about actually embracing any "all-benevolent" God and totally siding with all that's "GOOD".

There is no question in my mind that this is indeed all that I have ever wanted my entire life.

Therefore it's totally asinine to suggest that I had rejected my creator and that I'm in dire need of seeking his forgiveness. Thus any religion that proclaims that this must necessarily be the case must necessarily be totally false. It's a lie, and I can know for certain that it's a lie because there was never a time in my entire life when I would knowingly reject a truly benevolent all-wise divine God.

The only way that this religion can possibly be true for you is if you have indeed rejected an all-wise benevolent God and flatly refused to obey him.

If that's where you're coming from then I can't help you. I've never been there myself so I have no idea what to tell you on that one.

But for me the religion can't possibly be true because it basically demands things things be true, that I know for certain are not true.

I don't need science or anything else to know that I have never rejected all that is GOOD and refused to obey a truly benevolent God.

In fact, the very reasons that I reject the Hebrew fables is precisely because they are not benevolent. They are disgustingly demented and sick. They support things like male-chauvinism. They claim that this God was going around instructing people to judge one another and stone sinners to death, even their unruly children!

I don't about you, but I don't personally believe that an all-wise God would instruct anyone to stone an unruly child to death. All that demonstrates is total impatience, lack of good parenting skills, and basically instills a very negative pessimistic view that unruly children are beyond hope.

The bottom line is quite simple. The God portrayed by the ancient Hebrews isn't even a loving just God to begin with. It's a picture of a moronic demon. So there's nothing in the fables worthy of belief anyway.

And like I say, unless you have personally rejected the notion of a truly good God, and you have flatly rebelled against goodness, and have arrogantly rejected goodness in favor of evil, then how it be said that you have turned against God and are in dire need of repentance?

So the only way the story could be true for you is if you did reject all that is good in favor of evil, and now you have had a change of heart and wish to repent.

Since that scenario isn't true for me personally, then neither can the religion be true for me. It's clearly a lie. It's a false mythology.

There can be no question about it. At least not for me.

I can't speak for you. Only you can know whether or not you knowingly and willfully rejected all that is good and refused to embrace goodness at some point in your life.

If that's was true for you, then I can see where you might fall for the idea that you are in dire need of repentance.

But it was never true for me at any point in my entire life. So I can know confidently that the religion is a false fable riddled with lies.

Christian - A moron who believes that an all-benevolent God can simultaneously be a hateful jealous male-chauvinistic pig.
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!
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RE: How can Christians not admit Christianity is all a pile of garbage when ...? - by Abracadabra - February 12, 2012 at 1:42 pm

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