(February 14, 2012 at 2:27 pm)Abracadabra Wrote:(February 14, 2012 at 2:09 pm)LastPoet Wrote: And thats a plain old truck load of horseshit, starting:
Quote:1. Atheists can't truly prove that there is no spiritual or magical essence to reality.
You cant prove I don't have an udetectable friend that makes fish turn to bacon, nanner, nanner. Seriously, are you this stupid?
What you might think you can prove is basically irrelevant.
The bottom line is that the jealous God religions are under attack (and rightfully so). But the people who are attacking them are refusing to offer the believes a 'safety net'.
Think of it as a hotel that's on fire.
Inside are believers in spiritual ideals.
Outsides are non-believers who are telling the people inside to "jump" out of the hotel. But they aren't offering any safety nets. They are asking the occupants of the hotel to jump into the 'black hole' or atheism.
So the believers have two choices. They can either stand their ground and go up in glorious flames believing that they are honoring their jealous Gods. Or they can jump into the meaningless 'black hole' of atheism.
Standing their ground seems like the better choice. The 'black hole' of atheism is CERTAIN DOOM.
All I'm saying is that if you change this scenario and offer "safety nets of alternative spiritual views", then a LOT of people who are in these burning hotels with abandon their jealous God doctrines and jump into one of these alternative spiritual safety nets.
But if you think that you can "prove" to these people that the 'black hole' of atheism is the only possibly choice, then you are the one who is mistaken.
They are never going to trade-in their jealous-God doctrines for the certain meaningless fate of jumping into a black hole.
That is never going to happen.
It's truly unrealistic to even expect them to make that choice.
Why would another lie be a "safety net"? And why would stark, naked truth be certain doom?
