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Official debate with local pastor.
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RE: Official debate with local pastor.
(February 1, 2012 at 8:21 pm)Godschild Wrote: Wrong, Christ walks with me daily, and He helps me deal with all things good or bad, if you could only know how wonderful and comforting.

However, you must admit that your experience is entirely internal, and people do not see JC walking behind you whispering in your ear.

In effect, what is the difference between the observable, and understood psychiatric delusion, and your own personal experience with God whispering in your ear.

I certainly, not for a second would say that your experience with your God is not beneficial in terms of it being comforting and wonderful for you, thats really sweet. However, this does not equate it to being true.

So the single question is thus; What differentiates your feeling that Christ walks with you and helps you deal with problems, and the illusion of it.

Its an important question, because it is central to any self-authenticating private evidence (see sig). It is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. With illusions, and especially delusions are so well documented in psychiatric journals, that the sufferers remain utterly convinced of their reality. So what makes YOURS more convincing that the man who utterly believes he is the reincarnation of Abraham Lincoln.

The thing is; Delusions are a common, identifiable fact of the human psyche. We all have them to a certain degree.
God is not identifiable, not knowable, and refuses to offer any evidence of existence.

Shall we place bets?
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
― Tim Minchin, Storm
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Official debate with local pastor. - by JohnDG - January 23, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by 5thHorseman - January 23, 2012 at 2:30 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by frankiej - January 23, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by 5thHorseman - January 23, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by JohnDG - January 23, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Minimalist - January 23, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by 5thHorseman - January 23, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Blam! - January 23, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by JohnDG - January 23, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Minimalist - January 23, 2012 at 3:29 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by LastPoet - January 23, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by reverendjeremiah - January 23, 2012 at 4:54 pm
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RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Phil - January 23, 2012 at 9:26 pm
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RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by reverendjeremiah - January 23, 2012 at 7:22 pm
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RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Minimalist - January 23, 2012 at 8:27 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Blam! - January 23, 2012 at 9:02 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Godschild - January 23, 2012 at 8:34 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Zen Badger - January 24, 2012 at 8:11 am
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Faith No More - January 24, 2012 at 9:09 am
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RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Godschild - January 26, 2012 at 5:50 am
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RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Godschild - January 26, 2012 at 3:02 pm
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RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Godschild - January 27, 2012 at 1:34 am
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Zen Badger - January 27, 2012 at 8:08 am
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by reverendjeremiah - January 27, 2012 at 6:21 pm
RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Godschild - January 28, 2012 at 1:23 am
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RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Godschild - January 31, 2012 at 6:36 pm
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RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by JohnDG - January 25, 2012 at 3:52 pm
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RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Godschild - February 1, 2012 at 8:21 pm
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RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by Godschild - February 16, 2012 at 9:44 pm
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RE: Official debate with local pastor. - by padraic - February 16, 2012 at 11:27 pm
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