(February 17, 2012 at 10:52 pm)jason56 Wrote:(February 17, 2012 at 10:24 pm)chipan Wrote:(February 17, 2012 at 10:13 pm)jason56 Wrote:(February 3, 2012 at 12:15 am)MysticKnight Wrote: It's usually argued that allowing evil was necessary to allow free-will.
A problem with this is that we know some people are not evil but good. God could have just created the good people and spared the evil people that would go to hell from being created.
God is believed to have knowledge of all potential souls. Even if it's 1 in a trillion souls that are good and would not do any serious evil, out of infinite potential souls, he could pick only those ones.
At the very least, he could have only created the people that would not earn hell.
The people he would chose to do good with same free-will could be created, so it would not negate free-will at all.
Thus evil is not necessary to allow free-will if God knows everything.
God was invented thousands of years ago by primates. The only good side to keeping it going is as a model for evolution.
In other words, you can't win over nature. Nature created man, religion, athiesm. In that order.
the only way you can defeat atheism is to kill us all. but by that time there will only be you left and the question about God is invalid.
Is that what you want?
Wow that is not even close to the subject I was talking about. I was talking about why God allows evil. This was brought up by the athiest who posted the thread and I'm giving an answer to it. That's it; I'm not trying to kill atheists or anything like that.
My answer may be generic but so is the question. I could give you 25 reasons why God doesn't have any effect on evil, but I can't work past the fact that God doesn't exist in your premise. sorry.
The conversation isn't whether he exists it's why he allows evil. I'm not going to engage in this unrelated subject on this thread.
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Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
-4th verse of the american national anthem