Knowing everything and allowing evil

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Absolutely right, however when faced with the question "where did we come from?" an athiest must respond "I don't know/care" or with theories of evolution and cosmology. There are no other options.

So what's your answer of "Where did we come from?"

You point to Hebrew mythology and say that the God of those fables is the God who "created us". And this is where we came from.

But that's ridiculous. You believe that solely on FAITH.

Moreover, what exactly are you believing on FAITH?

Well, what does the Hebrew mythology demand that you believe?

They demand that you are unworthy of your creator's love.
They demand that you have rejected your creator and have rebelled against him and that you are in dire need of repentance.
They demand that you are so unworthy of God's love that you can never become worthy of God's love on your own merit.
They demand that you must accept that this God had to have his son beaten and nailed to a pole to pay for your unworthiness.

And you believe all that on PURE FAITH.

How did these ancient Hebrews manage to convince you that you are such a despicable unworthy person?
How did they manage to make you feel so guilty?

I don't know about you, but I'm quite certain that their charges are utter nonsense in my case.
I have no doubt in my mind that I am not unworthy of the love of my creator (if I even have one)
I also know for absolute certain that I have never done anything in my life what would warrent nailing anyone to a pole.

So those ancient Hebrews have no change of duping me with their false accusations of guilt.

It's absurd.

How anyone can believe that they are so despicable that they are unworthy of their creator's love and that it makes sense that their creator should have to have his son nailed to a pole to pay for their disgusting unworthiness is beyond me.

You must have either done some pretty nasty things in your life, or you are extremely gullible to allowing other people to tell you that you are unworthy of your creator's love.

It's utterly stupid.

And for you to believe that on PURE FAITH is even stupider.

Unless you are indeed such an unworthy despicable person. This would explain why you fall for these claims.

But if you're not. If you're a decent person, then why do you buy into such obvious lies?

I very well know its based on faith. Believing in the big bang and life from nonlife and evolution also requires faith.

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Sorry, I'm just sick of dumb arguements from this site. I seriously said from the begining that athiesm has to accept evolution to explain origin of the earth etc.

A little advice I've stuck too is - never speak nor act when angry. Anger clouds your judgement.

There is no requirement to accept evolution as an atheist. However atheists do tend to accept and acknowledge evolution as a scientific fact. Being the most plausible explanation.

Thanks for the advice. I don't like losing my cool and I'll try to control myself more often.