(February 23, 2012 at 7:08 pm)chipan Wrote: I'm not gonna play this back and forth "nuh uh" game.
Sure you are. That's precisely why you log onto these forums.
If you wanted to have positive discussions with like-minded individuals you'd join a Christian forum. There mere fact that you have joined an atheist forum to proselytize your religion proves that you're just looking to argue with people over it.
Obviously your just frustrated because you can't deny the points I make.
The biblical cannon is riddled with endless contradictions and they even have Jesus himself making statements that clearly fly in the face of the many of the sick demented things that Christians often demand that Jesus stood for.
If you're going to demand that Jesus is an egotistical bastard who will hate everyone who doesn't acknowledge that he's God, then you've got your work cut out for you.
There are clearly many quotes attribute to Jesus that suggest just the opposite.
Jesus said that he did not come for the righteous but rather for the spiritually sick. Therefore Jesus himself recognized that not everyone is in need of salvation.
When confronted with blaspheme for claiming to be a son of God Jesus points to the Torah and says, "It it not written in your law, I said, ye are gods"? Thus Jesus was not claiming to be God anymore than anyone else.
Jesus was most likely a Mahayana Buddhist viewing everyone as children of God.
Jesus, himself said that he would not judge those who hear his words but do not believe. In fact, he was supposedly saying that to people live, face-to-face. Well, gee if he didn't even expect people he was speaking to directly in person to believe him, then surely he wouldn't expect anyone 2000 years later to believe hearsay rumors about him.
So no way could Jesus be said to expect anyone to believe in him.
And like I say, Jesus also ask the Father to forgive people for they know not what they do. So there you have it. Clearly evidence that Jesus personally held the view that not knowing what you're doing is a legitimate excuse get be pardoned from judgment and be given the grace of free forgiveness.
If you attempt to hold any other position you'll have to do so by spitting in the face of Jesus and his very own words.
Jesus gave everyone a pardon who "Knows not what they do", because that was clearly his personal view of righteousness.
So even if these rumors and fables are true, Jesus would still pardon all atheists and non-Christians by his own words.
And you're not in a position to revoke the words of Jesus.
So why should anyone care what you think about it?
You don't speak for Jesus.
Christian - A moron who believes that an all-benevolent God can simultaneously be a hateful jealous male-chauvinistic pig.
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!
Wiccan - The epitome of cerebral evolution having mastered the magical powers of the universe and is in eternal harmony with the mind of God.
Atheist - An ill-defined term that means something different to everyone who uses it.
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Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
Clearly Jesus (a fictitious character or otherwise) will forgive people if they merely know not what they do
For the Bible Tells us so!